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Re: Twitter was down

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There were many different hypotheses on the outcome of Elon firing 80%+ of Twitter employees: 1. The site would crash and burn the next day. 2. Nothing would change. All those engineers were anyways just sitting around. 3. There would be no immediate impact (servers can run by themselves after all), but the site would slowly degrade over time as institutional knowledge around maintenance, upkeep and all the various s…

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Re: Twitter was down

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Please don’t do that. You deserve better as a worker. If a company is unable to function without infringing on the free time of their workers, that company should not exist.

I believe GP said he had fun. People should be allowed to work how they want to, they have the freedom (especially in this industry) to go elsewhere. I've pulled late nights, they bought us pizza and gave us a half day later. Sometimes you have to put in work during critical times. It's certainly not construction work anyway, people are kinda soft here sometimes.

It all depends.

If a business operates expecting this from employees, that business is being abusive. If a business got into trouble and employees are sacrificing to help it out, that's just an emergency. And it should be exceedingly rare -- if it's not, that's a poorly run business.

Re: Twitter was down

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Yes, but my recollection is that the whale fail was usually due to huge growth or unprecedented traffic peaks. I don't think Twitter is growing at a fast rate any longer.

Musk claims often that Twitter engagement numbers are at record highs. I don't believe these are lies.

"Record high" in an established business like Twitter isn't quite the same thing as a traffic spike in the growth phase of a startup (i.e. Twitter in 2011).

Record engagement these days is most likely measured in single digit percentage points over average engagement (at most maybe 10-20%), where when you're early and your traffic is spiking, it can be an order of magnitude more traffic than what you're used to seeing. The absolute numbers are larger yes, but from the perspective of "what can my infrastructure / architecture handle", relative changes are far more relevant.

Re: Twitter was down

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Twitter Support just posted: "Some parts of Twitter may not be working as expected right now. We made an internal change that had some unintended consequences. We’re working on this now and will share an update when it’s fixed." https://twitter.com/TwitterSupport/status/163279294226274713...

We made an internal change that had some unintended consequences. This person missed their calling at the State Department.

He came, he optimized, it died.

Re: Twitter was down

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post #197

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Maybe just don't follow people who post that stuff/turn off boosts/block furry instances/etc?

This isn't like Twitter, where it fills your feed with shit it thinks is relevant. On Mastodon, you have pretty much total control over what shows up in your feed.

Re: Twitter was down

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post #134

Not that I particularly like Elon but people are now making a big deal out of every twitter outage as if twitter didn't spend down half of the time before Elon bought it.

Twitter had issues early on, but before Musk bought them they definitely did not have outages half the time.

No, definitely not half the time... a third tops.

I've become accustomed to the fact that it's beyond clear that pre-Musk engineers pushed changes to the servers live without testing them first, and didn't even bother doing an incremental roll-out either. Either they had no engineering culture, or that culture was gutted long before he arrived, because Twitter had problems with frightening regularity.

Re: Twitter was down

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post #151

There were many different hypotheses on the outcome of Elon firing 80%+ of Twitter employees: 1. The site would crash and burn the next day. 2. Nothing would change. All those engineers were anyways just sitting around. 3. There would be no immediate impact (servers can run by themselves after all), but the site would slowly degrade over time as institutional knowledge around maintenance, upkeep and all the various s…

A simple and short lived glitch does not a #3 make. Twitter is better than ever now. Elon did good.

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Re: Twitter was down

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I believe GP said he had fun. People should be allowed to work how they want to, they have the freedom (especially in this industry) to go elsewhere. I've pulled late nights, they bought us pizza and gave us a half day later. Sometimes you have to put in work during critical times. It's certainly not construction work anyway, people are kinda soft here sometimes.

It all depends. If a business operates expecting this from employees, that business is being abusive. If a business got into trouble and employees are sacrificing to help it out, that's just an emergency. And it should be exceedingly rare -- if it's not, that's a poorly run business.

Certainly. I've been in a poorly run business that did this, and I quit.

But I don't mind working late every now and during crunch time, it gets paid forward, usually with time off later.

It's about your relationship with your company.

My point was from the sounds of it GP had a good relationship and had fun and no-one on HN should tell them what to do because they don't know the situation.

Re: Twitter was down

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Twitter is useful for following authors and finding out when they have new books. Now I have to seriously consider GoodReads. shudder

why wouldnt you just use their mailing list? ive tried this, to keep up todate with and theres so much uncontrollable noise anything important gets lost.

Because email has been so thoroughly decommoditized by Big Tech in the name of "fighting spam" that trying to receive email successfully feels like a trip to the roulette wheel?
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