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Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

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Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

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We can only control our actions and reactions, we don’t have much control over the outcomes of those .. So taking away the burden of specific outcomes and just keep doing whatever may be our actions as matter of duty is way to free up ourselves from stress and anxiety that comes when outcomes don’t meet our expectations.. It’s perfectly alright to expect the things to turn out in certain ways but it’s another thing t…

Thanks for the reminder. This is one of the things I "know" but have not fully internalised yet I think.

Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

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I was in a similar position in the past. My ex (5 y togheter) broke up with me in a very sudden to me manner. Details aside, my whole life did a backflip and fall on a neck. I was super depressed, crying and lost af. First thing I did was to reach out to my friends. It is really hard to have any kind of constructive perspective in such situations. That’s were the most trusted people are needed. If you don’t have too…

Thanks, and I emphasise with you! It's hard to come to terms with the fact that all these beautiful plans and hopes just, poof, disappear. And not just those, also the security, comfort and vitality of a really great relationship.

I did reach out a lot to some friends and family, and am gathering plans on how to improve/build myself. But yeah, it's hard. At the moment I'm still completely uninterested in meeting other women, even just for hookups.

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I can relate to this. I just broke up with my boyfriend of 6 years, and it feels like your world has ended. After experiencing painful breakups with the same person, I understood that the only thing that will ease the pain is time. It is hard to leave it to time to heal when your every minute is painful. But you will grow out of it. If you think that you can do something to get back with her, try it now, not later. B…

Thanks and hope you're ok!

Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which culture died quickly due to not practicing marriage?

All of them. They couldn't establish themselves enough to leave any important traces in history and are effectively erased. Sexual liberation is not a new idea, the reason why it's not traditional is because it is unsustainable and can never grow to a tradition

This is a... hard anthropological claim to make. I don't claim to be an expert anthropologist, but I would note that marriage means very many things to different peoples. 'Western' marriage, as it were, is already fraught. One man and a women, sharing property? Well, what about two men, two women, or other genders? Non-cishetnormative understandings complicate this picture quite quickly. And what of property? The capitalist idea of property isn't the only one, and different understandings of property will, historically speaking, lead to different understandings of marriage.

All of this is to say that marriage is a fraught societal construct, not a societal neccessity.

This thread took a bit of a wild turn, but I felt I had to respond :)

Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

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As others have pointed out, finishing your PhD can be brutal. It can absorb all of your time, effort, and energy leaving you isolated in an existence devoid of joy. I am not certain what your area of study was, but you might take a look at a book called "The Ph.D. Grind" by Phillip J. Guo. He shares his experiences working toward his PhD in comp sci and how he had been isolated and worn down from his efforts. I found it reassuring to know that I was not dealing with things unique simply to me, and it enabled me to reassess my trajectory.

Breaking up with partners is a terrible feeling, and it has compounded your issue since you've likely lost your closest emotional support at a time when you might rely on them the most. Time will help you with this problem. Meeting new people can be incredible because you find that you experience life in a completely unique and exciting way depending who you share your time with. When you are ready for that again, those opportunities will be there waiting for you.

Concerning your issues from home, Myself and many of my friends included had not realized how much our childhood and family life had affected us until we were well into our 30's. This is true despite having been aware of dysfunctional family issues from a young age. I've also had a number of therapists from my youth and many of them were useless. However, therapy is still the solution for this and I'd like to be clear why this is important to you:

Any close exposure, especially developmental, to narcissists or those with borderline traits can be devastating. The average person is highly ill-equipped to rationalize their experiences with someone of this nature.

I'd recommend you find a specialist in this area. Not all therapists are the same, find one that can work on you, with you. You will need help to disentangle the reality of your youth and you should not have to do it alone. However, you don't have you do this right now. You should focus on counseling for your immediate issues, however you assess them, in order to maintain forward momentum in your life.

Lastly, I am a realist: You can probably do this. All of it. Recover from this emotional deficit, finish your PhD, develop meaningful social relationships, and improve your well being through self discovery. What you are capable of is simply a matter perspective, and remember this is limited when you are so close to the bottom.

Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

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As others have pointed out, finishing your PhD can be brutal. It can absorb all of your time, effort, and energy leaving you isolated in an existence devoid of joy. I am not certain what your area of study was, but you might take a look at a book called "The Ph.D. Grind" by Phillip J. Guo . He shares his experiences working toward his PhD in comp sci and how he had been isolated and worn down from his efforts. I foun…

A phd is a grind, probably the hardest grind anyone can do in life (barring poverty or illness). And it really does make people very sick and leaves scars that last for life.

I don't regret my PhD, but I am a fundamentally different person after doing one, and in many ways, i'm weaker for it.

Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

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As others have pointed out, finishing your PhD can be brutal. It can absorb all of your time, effort, and energy leaving you isolated in an existence devoid of joy. I am not certain what your area of study was, but you might take a look at a book called "The Ph.D. Grind" by Phillip J. Guo . He shares his experiences working toward his PhD in comp sci and how he had been isolated and worn down from his efforts. I foun…

Thank you for the thoughtful response and empathy! The second paragraph pretty much hits the nail.

I've been analysing, dissecting, journalling my upbringing for the past 10 years and have made substantial progress I would say. But mostly on a cognitive level and on a level of being able to understand that it was not normal/healthy. I'm not so sure about the level of emotions / truly internalising. I realised over the past year that I cannot fully heal alone, so I finally looked out for therapists (after pushing it away for months). Many books/articles/videos/podcasts about psychology, narcissistic parents, CPTSD as well as discussing everything with my siblings (we are 4) have helped validate my/our feelings and enabled me/us to understand. I've already read several books other commenters suggested. On a deeper level I still feel a bit broken, low self-esteem, passive / somewhat avoidant, daydreaming about being a hermit in a forest, full of self doubts, unsure who I am, etc. very often.

I hope therapy will lead to some breakthroughs on that level and, yeah, I will make sure I'll try to find a good fit.

Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

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I can only tell you what I would want myself to do in your situation. I would want to hit the road. I would pause the PhD and go on a long road trip. Alternatively, I would set about hiking one of the longer trails in the U.S. Clichéd? Maybe. But I have found the most peace and serenity in my life when on the road, broken out of my constant circles. A rather extreme measure? Yeah, bailing on the PhD seems rather extr…

Thanks! "Agency" hits it. I often feel like I'm a passenger in my own life, like it's just passing by in front of my eyes like a movie. Like I'm this small entity sitting in my brain just observing what's happening.

I am planning to take out a few months after the PhD to do something crazy. Like hike New Zealand top to bottom, or US east to west road trip or living a couple months in a small Italian seaside town or Pacific island to decompress from society, or become truly conscious about our society (visit all the places that support our society like waste plants, sewers, drinking water plants, electricity plants, farmers, distribution centres, ports, mass food production centres, clothing factories, oil refineries, paper factories, etc.).

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Hi. Feel free to ignore all of this. I hope this helps (selfishly, it helped me a bit to type). I see comments that are giving good advice. Some are suggesting that what you are feeling isn't rock bottom. In my opinion, whether or not that is true doesn't matter. Reality filters through the lens of your mind. If you feel that this is the case, it is. To you. I have been, and still go through, the same things. Because…

Thank you, appreciate your kindness! Good luck on your journey as well!

Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

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I went from selling three businesses to being homeless on the street. I don’t think, unfortunately, there’s a magic solution. I can provide some generic advice about what helped me: 1. Determining who my actual support network was. I invested in my repairing and strengthening my bonds with my friends and family who had been there for me - and while not cutting ties with fair weather friends, deemphasized spending tim…

Thanks for the advice!
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