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Re: So what’s next (personal news from developer of popular CoreJS polyfill)

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Post by hexator »

pancrufty wrote: post #141
slikrick wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

seriously. calling them "victims" (as if they weren't killed by his car) was very unsettling. showed little to no remorse for his actions.

If you fire my gun, whose fault is it? If you jump in front of my car I bear zero responsibility. If anything, you should be paying for damage to me. How much time he actually had to react is up to anyone’s guess, but let's not dumb it down to "HIS car killed".

Assuming we take his story at face value, from a legal standpoint you are correct. However, if I accidentally ran somebody over and even if I was not at legal fault I would certainly feel guilty and it feels wrong to me how quickly he pushed it off.

I also find it a bit weird he implied he was driving a car but in the news article it said he was driving a motorcycle.

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Post by BizarreByte »

ufmace wrote: post #117
kypro wrote: post #106

I always heard people talk about how "open source is broken", but I'm honestly in shock after reading this. Is this normal? That one guy can contribute code that is used on thousands of the top websites worldwide and not one of the numerous multi-billion dollar companies that use his code are even willing to donate an amount equivalent to an average developer's salary? I mean, how is this that possible? It's not like…

The problem that a lot of people don't get is that corporations can't just donate money to things like that to be nice. They have accounting and legal obligations, they can't just throw money around for funsies. If you phrase things their way, like selling them a product on contract, you can easily get tens of thousands from them. But a "please donate" link on your site won't get anything.

> they can't just throw money around for funsies.

And yet a single bad/pointless/redundant meeting can easily cost 5k or more in time alone.

Companies throw money away constantly.

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Post by ilaksh »

kypro wrote: post #106

I always heard people talk about how "open source is broken", but I'm honestly in shock after reading this. Is this normal? That one guy can contribute code that is used on thousands of the top websites worldwide and not one of the numerous multi-billion dollar companies that use his code are even willing to donate an amount equivalent to an average developer's salary? I mean, how is this that possible? It's not like…

Because civilization is a myth and most people are trash. The primary operating principal is exploitation.

Re: So what’s next (personal news from developer of popular CoreJS polyfill)

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Post by [deleted] »

sgammon wrote: post #174
5e92cb50239222b wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The court documents on that case are publicly available if you're willing to look for them (and can read Russian). I haven't read everything, but I didn't see anything contradicting his side of the story.

he said he was "driving home at 3am," you know, as one does, and two girls were "crawling on the highway." i am honestly not sure i've ever heard a less believable story

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Post by krysp »

toyg wrote: post #192
btown wrote: post #67

From this article, Denis Pushkarev seems to be a remarkably principled developer in a horrible situation, and I admire his commitment to this project. Setting that aside, though, is anyone else alarmed that such a widely used project has exactly one maintainer who is able to push arbitrary changes without review? Especially one already in legal trouble and significant debt, unable to travel, for a project embedded in…

> Especially one already in legal trouble and significant debt, unable to travel ... and living in a country involved in war, run by a regime for which respect for the rule of law is a "nice to have". If I were in FSB, I'd be banging at this guy's door right now, and making his life as comfortable as I can. Imagine dropping an obfuscated killswitch on half the global web, that is Real Power right there; or silently s…

I'd question whether this is an ethical thing to suggest, in case any of said henchmen were to read this site

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Post by ilaksh »

webknjaz wrote: post #239

Urgh.. It's so unsettling how easy people fall for the "innocent act" of the person who routinely supports genocide. And it's a known systemic consistent behavior in the public statements — he's been supporting the mass murderers for many years. In his late post he suggests that the murdered Ukrainians are somehow the same as the ruscist rapists who killed them. In the past he was shifting the blame for the r ssian f…

People in Russia receive a constant stream of propaganda about their opponents. And it is not safe to make public statements that oppose the war.

Re: So what’s next (personal news from developer of popular CoreJS polyfill)

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Post by BizarreByte »

zztop44 wrote: post #56
hsn915 wrote: post #45

Here's simple solution: create a product and sell it for money. Seriously. Stop giving stuff away for free. EDIT: let me elaborate. Writing open source is not a business strategy. At best, it's a gimmick, or outsourcing infrastructure maintenance to the public. What you should do is the following: 1) Project authority. This is easy. You are the creator and maintainer of a critical piece of infrastructure. You are THE…

That’s simple, but it’s not a solution. Can you imagine writing software in a world without open source (that is also free as in beer)? I can’t.

I can, it sounds like a world where people are more fairly compensated for their work.

I’m increasingly cynical about open source as time goes on. There really need to be better licenses that deal with the funding issue, because huge companies shouldn’t have any right to freeload.

Re: So what’s next (personal news from developer of popular CoreJS polyfill)

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Post by ilaksh »

I doubt this is really practical but I wonder what would happen if it just became a commercial project in a few weeks. He has given fair warning many times in the past and again today.

So out of all of those large companies, if he sets the license at say $5000-10000 per year, would they all really just pin the old version or something and leave him hanging?

Honestly this is the type of thing that makes me want to roote for the AIs in the future. They can't possibly be worse than humans.

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Post by toyg »

krysp wrote: post #285
toyg wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Especially one already in legal trouble and significant debt, unable to travel ... and living in a country involved in war, run by a regime for which respect for the rule of law is a "nice to have". If I were in FSB, I'd be banging at this guy's door right now, and making his life as comfortable as I can. Imagine dropping an obfuscated killswitch on half the global web, that is Real Power right there; or silently s…

I'd question whether this is an ethical thing to suggest, in case any of said henchmen were to read this site

Now it's likely too late, he's too visible. And if there are more developers in his circumstances, well, maybe we all deserve what's coming to us.

Re: So what’s next (personal news from developer of popular CoreJS polyfill)

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Post by TheFlyingFish »

ilaksh wrote: post #288

I doubt this is really practical but I wonder what would happen if it just became a commercial project in a few weeks. He has given fair warning many times in the past and again today. So out of all of those large companies, if he sets the license at say $5000-10000 per year, would they all really just pin the old version or something and leave him hanging? Honestly this is the type of thing that makes me want to roo…

Seems unlikely to work given (if I understood correctly) the main direct consumer is Babel, another OSS project that is known to have had trouble with funding in the past. If he starts asking for license fees, Babel eill just be forced to make do with the latest OSS version, fork it or whatever, and the rest of the world will never know.
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