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Justice Department announces takedown of catalytic converter theft ring

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Re: Justice Department announces takedown of catalytic converter theft ring

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Do you have data backing that up? The data is all FOIA-able like calls to the police department and dispatch data. There's also insurance claim data which requires a police report.

Does FOIA data include how many calls the police don't pick up? I've literally never gotten an answer when calling my local PD's non-emergency number

Assume you could get the raw phone log including non answers. I thought they had voice mailboxes?

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> Nobody cares about your allergies, and if you go to buy Sudafed, they're just going to sell it to you. The only thing that will trip you up is if you go from store to store collecting lots of it. That's not true. First they don't just sell it to you, they take your ID, record your information, send that to the state, and then sell it you. Going to one store after another after another collecting lots of pills isn't…

How much Sudafed did you buy?! The daily purchase limits are pretty high. Did you max out your monthly limit in your hometown before traveling? Really, if we're this wound up about the situation, the answer is simple: just make Sudafed require a prescription, like a zillion other medications. The problem with Sudafed is extremely straightforward: it is a very trivial chemical reaction away from being methamphetamine.

Only one box each time, what specific number of pills were included I couldn't say, but these were normal packages and not some costco-esque barrel full of bulk drugs.

Some states have made the requirement for prescriptions, but it hasn't done them much good https://www.huffpost.com/entry/meth-laws-oregons-prescriptio...

I'm no fan of meth labs, but this just seems like a bad solution being made worse by poor implementation.

Re: Justice Department announces takedown of catalytic converter theft ring

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It's literally "going out of style". Gotta get all the cat converters you can before all the cars are electric!

I'd expect the charging cables to be the easy target then. EV owners, please correct me if I'm wrong but I can't imagine that the charging port would be able resist a cordless drill for more then 4 or 5 seconds. And from what I've seen of the CCS connectors, Home Depot probably carries big drill bits long enough drill into into and completely destroy the locking mechanism. Drill in, destroy the the charging port on t…

there are "easier" ways to steal copper

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Just as a note, this didn't work at all. They came up with a better chemistry and now there's more meth than there was before. Breaking Bad dramatized this aspect of it (though their chemistry wasn't correct on purpose).

fentanyl I think is what's replaced meth at this point.

No there’s plenty of meth around, don’t just guess about things. They’re making meth with a new process at industrial scales these days, by the ton. Fentanyl gets a lot of air time on the news these days but don’t confuse that for prevalence in reality, problems aren’t proportional to the amount of attention they get.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/11/the-new...

Re: Justice Department announces takedown of catalytic converter theft ring

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I'm not a lawyer but I was on the grand jury and I was surprised to see that in my state of oregon transporting metals (like any metal) over some limit without a license is a misdemeanor. I was surprised at the time because I didn't understand the purpose, but I get it.

I think this is the law: https://oregon.public.law/statutes/ors_164.857

Re: Justice Department announces takedown of catalytic converter theft ring

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I’ve armored both of my IC engine vehicles due to the local theft issues which spiked after the pandemic started. Cost about $400 per vehicle (both happen to be the top targets for thieves). I’m hoping it’s saved me the annoyance of having the part stolen, but I’m rather sad to see things degenerate to this level. Glad to see the feds really go after the crooks.

What did you do to protect them, install a plate?

For mine, I used stainless steel wire rope woven all across the underside of the vehicle in a manner that would make it impossible to remove a catalytic converter if they cut it off without also having to cut most of the wire rope. This method prevents heat buildup that could occur if you use a steel or aluminum plate to conceal it while adding enough complexity to the removal that you make it more likely that they are discovered in the process. Most of these thieves are trying to get in and out ASAP.

So far it has worked. That is either because the vehicle has not been targeted (most likely case) or because the thieves saw who may have targeted it realized that there were easier vehicles to hit parked nearby (not unlikely but certainly less likely).

Re: Justice Department announces takedown of catalytic converter theft ring

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I'd expect the charging cables to be the easy target then. EV owners, please correct me if I'm wrong but I can't imagine that the charging port would be able resist a cordless drill for more then 4 or 5 seconds. And from what I've seen of the CCS connectors, Home Depot probably carries big drill bits long enough drill into into and completely destroy the locking mechanism. Drill in, destroy the the charging port on t…

> And from what I've seen of the CCS connectors, Home Depot probably carries big drill bits long enough drill into into and completely destroy the locking mechanism. > If not, and if the owner does something to lock the cable, cutting it for the copper is still worth a few dollars. Worth the risk of electrocution with a possibly live 50-350kW flowing through a CCS charger cable? Seems like a different level of risk t…

I commented to the other fellow, but long story short; wasn't thinking about the high voltage fast charging lines, but rather little level 1 chargers people would use to charge cars parked on the street over night. Intact, they're worth a fair amount and at least first glance there doesn't seem to be a lot of risk involved if done properly.

Re: Justice Department announces takedown of catalytic converter theft ring

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How would one go about legally selling a catalytic converter? I removed the exhaust from one of my vehicles about 15 years ago when I replaced the worn out engine and have had the old catalytic converter sitting around in my shop ever since. The catalytic converter came from a 1992 model vehicle. The whole exhaust was replaced with a custom stainless steel exhaust front to back with a 50-state compliant catalytic con…

I've sold lots, some of which were obviously chopped out of vehicles with a sawzall (vehicles that I legally owned, btw). They've always scanned my ID, took my thumb print, and mailed me the check after a couple of days.

This will probably be what I do. The metal scrap yards are in a town nearby where there has been a lot of meth lab activity so I think just the fact that I'm not one of those guys will help.
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