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Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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Post by LegitShady »

mkl95 wrote: post #72

I find it kind of shocking that Musk likes Twitter that much, but at the same time it makes sense. If you ignore the wealth differential, his behaviour is similar to the average Twitter user. He may be the perfect owner in that sense. I also think it will be a clusterfuck within 5 years like some of his "side project" companies.

musk makes it clear why he likes twitter - because it lets you talk to the public without any filter at all, easily. Musk himself is whimsical and trollish on twitter but its not clear how much of that is real vs public image

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Post by redeeman »

phailhaus wrote: post #110
hn8305823 wrote: post #69

He literally said it will not be a free for all. He may be chaotic, but he's not stupid. There is a huge difference between no moderation (anarchy), and not targeting conservative voices solely based on ideology.

> not targeting conservative voices solely based on ideology. This literally does not happen, and is entirely made up in a form of projection. In fact, Twitter has been found to be biased towards recommending right-wing sources. [1] [1] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/oct/22/twitter-a...

in other news, criminals dont agree they are criminals, and publish a story saying they are not, so that is now fact.

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Post by MonkeyMalarky »

HillRat wrote: post #216
Animats wrote: post #129

OK, so far, not much. Musk is getting stretched rather thin. Space-X seems to be doing OK with Gwynne Shotwell running things. Tesla, which Musk apparently does really run personally, is doing OK, but their side ventures are not. Self-driving is a mess. Solar panels (yes, Tesla has a solar panel business) are not doing well. The Cybertruck is years late. (Maybe next year.[1]) So is the Tesla Model 2, the low-end vehi…

Twitter is also a risk, not just a distraction; now foreign governments can demand access and control in Twitter by holding Tesla revenue hostage (e.g., China's approval or disapproval of Tesla purchase tax exemptions), so he's basically paid a lot of cash to give bad actors additional levers to affect his other businesses.

Also physical assets like a production plant. Which I'm sure would never be threatened with a shut down over miscellaneous health and safety or permit violations.

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Post by cutenewt »

aksss wrote: post #247
thethethethe wrote: post #156

If I was working at Twitter right now I would be looking for a different job, regardless of what I think of Elon's politics/motives. The talk of layoffs and major policy changes creates massive uncertainty and I don't think I'd risk sticking out the transition. I bet many inside the company feel the same. This begs the question: If there is a major exodus, will it even matter? And, if it does, how will the problems m…

These are times of tremendously unnatural opportunity for people who stick with it. If you doubt your objective value or just don’t like high-stress environments, then yes, start looking elsewhere now.

+1. So much opportunity for battlefield promotions right now.

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Post by conradfr »

PartiallyTyped wrote: post #22
Covzire wrote: post #14

Musk just tweeted this 5 mins ago: "Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with widely diverse viewpoints. No major content decisions or account reinstatements will happen before that council convenes."

Ironic considering Babylon Bee was just unbanned even though they violated TOS. Also ironic that his goal was to promote free speech and painted moderation as evil. —- It is beyond me that I am downvoted for pointing the irony of the situation. So many proponents of free speech have so few regards to give for TOS and have the audacity to demand service without abiding to it. It seems that HN is no longer a bastion of…

Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think they were banned, they have refused to delete a specific tweet to gain the ability to post again.

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Post by yamtaddle »

Meekro wrote: post #25
hartator wrote: post #8

It can be great for freedom of speech. Hopefully, it won't distract Elon too much from SpaceX, Tesla, and other important work. I still don't get how he managed to be CEO of multiple high-complexity companies. It's already not easy to be CEO of just one.

Some people just seem to have more hours in their day. It's quite impressive what Musk can do.

How they do it:

1) They don't actually spend much time on any one thing per week, on average.

2) Many of the things that count as "work" for them, at their level, are more fun—and even recuperatory—than, say, wrangling spreadsheets at your desk and attending dull-ass compulsory meetings for no reason all day. (put another way: when you have enough money, everything you do is kinda an optional hobby and not something you have to do even if you hate it)

3) They can pay to not have to worry about 90+% of the non-work shit the peons have to. Laundry? Making appointments? Arguing with insurance? Making high-quality, tasty meals? Shopping for the ingredients for those meals? Driving yourself and others places? All strictly optional. That's 10-30 hours of soul-draining bullshit per week just gone (and you can keep any of the parts that you don't find soul-draining—cook, but never have to shop for ingredients, for instance)

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Post by raiyu »

disgruntledphd2 wrote: post #243
lupire wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Space-X seems to be doing OK with Gwynne Shotwell running things. Find Gwynne Chatwell for Twitter, and Bob's our uncle!

Sheryl Sandberg?

Actually a pretty good idea.

I think Sheryl Sandberg running Twitter would be a great idea. She definitely has a ton of experience, is used to dealing with complicated founders and executing on their vision, the only place that she could move up in her career is to be the CEO of not just a large corporation but something meaningful.

In a way Twitter and Facebook are no longer as directly competitive as they were in the old days when it was just FB and Twitter.

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Post by dahfizz »

megaman821 wrote: post #212
WaxProlix wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The cars and panels aren't looking great, but Tesla battery business is good for now though, I think.

The profit margin on cars looks good. If the 3 and Y cost around $35k and $40k to Tesla, they have a lot of room to respond to competitive pressures. I think Tesla's battery moves are spot on. Investing in extraction, processing, refining, and manufacturing is going to pay off big time in the future.

I think this is the future for Tesla as a business, frankly. They should be a manufacturer of batteries and other EV components.

Tesla is the king of battery manufacturing. Their EV drivetrains are the most efficient on the market today. But their cars kinda suck overall and they are not going to be competitive with the traditional auto makers in the long run. Better to sell batteries & motors to Toyota, and sell power walls & solar to consumers / resellers. That is their core competency.

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Post by cutenewt »

thinkingemote wrote: post #248

They need to re-free up the API. Early adopters and hackers really did some great work using the API until they walled-gardened it and rate limited it to make it unusable. They need to do this for goodwill at the very least, but I think it will spark the fire to make it popular with techies again. Based on the recently published discovery chats we will probably see: * High def video * Focus on music publication * The…

I think it's going to be more in the other direction.

He really hates the bots, so he'll probably close up the API.

Until bots gets solved, no developer should expect the API to open up.

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