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Re: Kanye West is buying Parler

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Post by smcn »

themitigating wrote: post #197
smcn wrote: post #154

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He's diagnosed with bipolar back in 2016 and talks about refusing medication because it messes with his ability to create/be creative. It's possible that he's exhibited symptoms for far longer but it was brushed aside under the guise of kooky genius. I mean, the Taylor Swift thing was, what, 2009?

I'm bipolar and while I do get excited with bursts of energy I've never made antisemitic or political remarks because of it

Nor did I say bipolar caused either of those things.

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Post by coinbasetwwa »

adamrezich wrote: post #246
datavirtue wrote: post #42

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He has obviously gone off the rails and needs help (I don't think he was like this many years ago). I'm disappointed that people view his antics as entertainment. He is serious, and quite obviously has a progressing problem. My original question, which has already been down-voted, was sincere. Par for the course in America, he will probably end up jailed due to his mental health issues.

is anyone else completely uncomfortable with how completely comfortable everyone is with people playing armchair psychiatrist for people they've never even personally met these days

Yes. “Everyone I disagree with is crazy” is a real thing and disgusting. Reading a psychology book and a couple pop news articles doesn’t make these people psychiatrists or psychologists.

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Post by OJFord »

soupfordummies wrote: post #270
OJFord wrote: post #234

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It's linked ('unaired segments of the interview') in the submitted article: https://www.vice.com/en/article/3ad77y/kanye-west-tucker-car... Bizarre. In a way, good on them for editing the weirdest stuff out... But really probably shouldn't have used any of it when someone's so clearly in such a bad state? I mean it really is just driving clicks/views/profit from someone's poor health, in a nasty sort of way (i.e. not…

It's Fox News. I don't think they have any ethical care whatsoever.

Oh, I'm sort of aware of that reputation (of Fox News), but I just read 'Carlson', not a name I know.

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Post by coinbasetwwa »

mschuster91 wrote: post #7
datavirtue wrote: post #5

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That's one of a hell of an ableist take. People with mental illnesses are legally entitled to the same rights as people that have not been diagnosed with a mental illness, unless their rights (such as to purchase assets with their own money) have been specifically taken away from them following due process.

But you see, I disagree with them, so we have to take their rights away /s

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Post by themitigating »

mrtksn wrote: post #267
Joeri wrote: post #256

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I used to be free speech absolutist, but I am not any longer, especially when it comes to social media. The argument in favor of absolute free speech for me was basically “let everyone hear everything and make up their own mind”. This presumes that people are swayed by the content of an argument. This is a false assumption, people are mostly swayed by the volume of the argument. This is well documented in psychologic…

I agree, mostly. I propose methods to address these shortcomings instead of limiting speech.

I agree with this but then you don't have free speech right?

I assume you are referring to something like defamation but controlled by the state

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Post by [deleted] »

bambax wrote: post #271
itake wrote: post #252

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> the most popular rapper/hip hop artist of all time Slim Shady stands up [0]. [0] - https://iamyourtargetdemographic.com/2011/08/30/kanye-west-v...

This article is from 2011, but today on Spotify Eminem still has more monthly listeners than Kanye West (53M vs 51M). Eminem also has several songs that have over a billion streams (one with >1.5b), while Kanye has just one and it's at exactly 1b. So yes, Eminem is still well ahead.

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Post by [deleted] »

bambax wrote: post #271
itake wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the most popular rapper/hip hop artist of all time Slim Shady stands up [0]. [0] - https://iamyourtargetdemographic.com/2011/08/30/kanye-west-v...

This article is from 2011, but today on Spotify Eminem still has more monthly listeners than Kanye West (53M vs 51M). Eminem also has several songs that have over a billion streams (one with >1.5b), while Kanye has just one and it's at exactly 1b. So yes, Eminem is still well ahead.

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Post by causi »

colinmhayes wrote: post #247
causi wrote: post #122

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"I hate what you say but I will die defending your right to say it". In all places, these people are curating comments and posts to push agenda. It's incredibly tiresome, not just online but in real life. There is no freedom vs control debate. There's just the people who advocate arresting those who teach their children inconvenient truths vs those who advocate arresting those who use naughty language.

The 2020 election was stolen isn't an inconvenient truth, it's not naughty language, it's a lie that the majority of GOP house candidates are furthering. You're mischaracterization of the debate leads me to believe you made this comment in bad faith.

I was actually talking about CRT and the history of slavery in the United States. That's the inconvenient truth legislatures in some states are attempting to arrest people for teaching. Plenty of people are trying to keep election conspiracy theories off social media but as far as I know nobody is trying to pass a law against spreading them.

You're mischaracterization of the debate leads me to believe you made this comment in bad faith.

And there it is. Advocate for free speech in front of a left-leaning audience and you're a conspiracy-spewing Republican. Advocate for free speech in front of a right-leaning audience and you're a child-grooming communist. Like I said, tiresome.

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Post by dragontamer »

aborochoff wrote: post #195
tptacek wrote: post #117

This is really a story about a celebrity's mental illness and public breakdown. If you haven't been following the news, West has spent the week saying increasingly unhinged things, not just about politics but about Pete Davidson, his wife, and (if I'm remembering right) his kids and the fake actor children that have been installed in his former home to corrupt them. He was interviewed for a show on Fox and a big chun…

So apparently its evident to a lot of people on hacker news that kanye has a mental illness and is making bad decisions because of it. If this is the case why hasnt someone tried to take power of attorney or something similar here?

> power of attorney

My grandma is beginning to look like she has dementia. But we, as a family, aren't at a point where we're thinking of taking away her agency. She's a proud woman and always has been.

In many cases, its probably better for the person for them to keep their agency. If they're only going to lose money, its really not that big of a deal. We're more concerned about what if she has a fall by herself or other such issue. But those things won't be solved by revoking her agency.

But just because someone is mentally ill (dementia, bipolar, or even schizophrenic) doesn't mean they deserve to lose their agency and get power of attorney invoked over them.

Has anyone close to you been in a mentally ill situation? Have you ever tried to tell someone you love, someone you trusted, someone you used to look up to that their mental capabilities have declined and that you no longer trust them to watch over themselves? And if so, do you think taking away their ability to use their bank account is the solution to that problem?

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Post by woodruffw »

imjk wrote: post #170
tptacek wrote: post #117

This is really a story about a celebrity's mental illness and public breakdown. If you haven't been following the news, West has spent the week saying increasingly unhinged things, not just about politics but about Pete Davidson, his wife, and (if I'm remembering right) his kids and the fake actor children that have been installed in his former home to corrupt them. He was interviewed for a show on Fox and a big chun…

Call me cynical, but I think the likes of Kanye, the Kardashians, Trump, even Elon, etc. are much more calculated than they are deranged. They know how to work the media and manipulate the public better than anyone else. We're living in a world now where journalists are paid by click counts more than quality of content. In the same vein, Kanye and the likes know that the more absurdist and unconventional their action…

This isn't an either/or: Kanye West (or anybody else) can be simultaneously shrewd, calculating, and mentally unwell. Nobody has claimed that Kanye is stupid or otherwise compensating, only that he has a publicly attested history of mental health problems.
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