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#282In case you haven't seen it, some new evidence surfaced yesterday: https://youtu.be/jfPzUgzrOcQ
In one of those games, Nieman was losing by 1.3 points in the first 10 moves despite being 100% according to this analysis so I'll take it with a grain of salt. This only looks at having moves within the top 3 engine moves done by one of the engines tested, and sometimes there's just 1-2 good moves so doing 1 out of 10 (or whatever) possible moves doesn't mean you did anything good. Further, it's unclear how cherry-picked it is. If it was that obvious I'd think the other analysis would've caught it which they didn't.
You can find more discussion of it on reddit, but the threads are generally all over the place.
https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/xofl99/one_of_the_10...
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#283Earlier quoted context omitted.
He played several games with 100% correlation with what chess engines considered to be the best move, and also played in 5 consecutive tournaments with such a high fraction of engine-preferred moves that his performance rivals the best players in history at the pinnacle of their careers.
Yes, and so does.... everyone else that is 2600+. And lots of people who aren't.
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#284I am limited in what I can say without explicit permission from Niemann What? I'd like him to explicitly state what rule/law/agreement prevents him from saying more. He explicitly accused him of cheating. I can't imagine what would prevent him from providing details.
Magnus owns 20% of Chess.com. Chess.com put out a statement basically saying 'we have sent Hans evidence that he cheated more than the two times he admitted to' Chess.com / Magnus is waiting for Niemann to respond.
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#285Earlier quoted context omitted.
To be fair to Hans, his claim is he cheated in a prize money tournament when he was 12. If he cheated in prize money games besides that it would be different, but I think most people are willing to forgive a 12 year old.
He's admitted to cheating at 12 years old and at 16 years old (just 3 years ago)
> He's admitted to cheating at 12 years old and at 16 years old (just 3 years ago)
I see the pattern forming. He clearly has improved his play since but he could also have improved the cheating technique, as others pointed out, just needing a hint or two in the most decisive moments of the game. Has he not cheated against Magnus it's a pity that he got accused with no proofs.
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#286Carlson should just challenge Niemann to a 30 game over the board televised match in their shorts (no shoes, no shirt) at Madison Square Garden. With the revenue generated from ticket sales and advertising, they could both retire and international chess can put this episode behind them.
Carlson already has enough $ to retire, and he certainly would have nothing to gain from such a "spectacle for the masses". His place as #1 in the world (and arguably, history) is not threatened by Hans.
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#287In case you haven't seen it, some new evidence surfaced yesterday: https://youtu.be/jfPzUgzrOcQ
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#288Hans is clearly cheating. Comparing his past games against what an engine would do is pretty damning. Chess engines are far superior to players and the best players in the world top out in the high 70s percent correlations (Magnus averages around 70%). Hans has a string of games at 100% correlation[0], meaning he's playing perfect games. Past players who achieved this later went on to admit to cheating[1]. Magnus kno…
You mean Magnus?
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#289It's very remarkable that Carlsen is suspicious of Niemann's game against him in Sinquefield, since there's a clear consensus among other top chess players that there was absolutely nothing unusual about it (or at least about the moves played).
The reasons Carlsen gives for being suspicious are not "the moves played were unusual" but about Niemann's behavior surrounding them.
Which are totally subjective. And they dont really make sense. He thought he was too relaxed? How would cheating OTB against Carlsen be relaxing? Carlsen is being really unprofessional here, even if he turns out to be correct. But the window has closed - we will never have evidence that he was cheating at this tourney.
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#290Earlier quoted context omitted.
To be fair to Hans, his claim is he cheated in a prize money tournament when he was 12. If he cheated in prize money games besides that it would be different, but I think most people are willing to forgive a 12 year old.
He admitted to cheating at 16. He's only 19 now.
Look, maybe he did not cheat but it's hard to prove he didn't nor that he did. The fact that historically he's not blemish free makes it harder to celebrate his victory. Tough luck indeed..