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Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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https://f-droid.org I've used Netguard off F-Droid before, it's really nice when you turn on the filter: https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard/blob/master/ADBLOCKING.md .

https://f-droid.org/packages/org.jak_linux.dns66/

Been using this for years, though I don't often use ad-serving apps anyhow, so it's mostly just a second layer of defence behind firefox/u-block (and noscript, to be honest, but I understand not everyone wants to deal with that.)

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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I categorically reject ads. I want them completely abolished. I will do everything that's in my power to get them out of my machines. If I had just a little bit more courage I would go out at night with cans of spray paint and deface billboards.

That is quite unrealistic though. You either need to pay up or put up with the consequences of wanting a free service, such as dealing with the never ending battle of blocking ads. I wish companies would offer the opportunity to pay what you want to remove ads. People with adblock are probably more likely to pay for it, because anyone not running ads is probably not bothered by them anyway. And people running adblock…

The main problem is I don't have the ability to only pay for the content I consume.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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I categorically reject ads. I want them completely abolished. I will do everything that's in my power to get them out of my machines. If I had just a little bit more courage I would go out at night with cans of spray paint and deface billboards.

How do you propose sites/YouTube channels monetise themselves (for sustenance or profit)?

I don't really care about their bottom line. They're the middle-men. Virtual landlords. They're there to squeeze the lemon.

Not to say that the service they provide isn't useful. It's obviously more economical to operate media platforms at scale, and obviously most content creators don't have the technical ability to do it themselves.

When you look at say, podcasts for instance, you have this giant shared wealth of free content and you can pick a number of creators to support depending on your budget. You usually get extra episodes or perks as an incentive for doing so. Imagine if, instead of paying YouTube X dollars or watching Y ads and letting them choose out how to spread that money around, you pay the people you actually watch and the platform vendors, who ought to be the least important and most replaceable factor in this transaction, gets the cut they actually deserve.

Before they were ruined by copyright trolls, streaming services like Netflix demonstrated that charging everyone a reasonable amount of money for access to the entire park was a viable business model.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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It is/was fantastic and an essential application for android. It is the first app I install before letting a new android phone connect to the internet. edit: the app is still maintained & the dev is still active on the Netguard thread, although there was a prior issue with google where he had stopped development https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/app-6-0-netguard-no-root-... https://netguard.me/

He only stopped for a few days before the Google issue ended up being resolved. He's still developing. https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases/tag/1.1957

Thanks; updated my prior comment and I also see he is active in the Netguard xda thread

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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Firefox for Android with ublock origin makes my mobile web browsing sane again. Highly recommended.

I tend to agree, but for a few years now, Firefox has become an ad delivery vehicle for Mozilla. While not as bad as anywhere else on the web, it seems that Mozilla is working hard to destroy their brand value by pushing notification ads for its VPN service to mobile Firefox users (which is a violation of the Google Play ToS), and by using the firefox-was-upgraded page for VPN spam.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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What's wrong with Firefox Focus as a Safari content blocker? I barely see ads on my iPhone and websites breaking because I have an ad blocker is more common than seeing ads.

I've never knowingly encountered a website breaking because I have an adblocker, but I've being running adblockers of one sort or another for about as long as there's been ads on the web - so maybe there's just features I don't know I should experience. Can you give an example of a website that breaks with an adblocker? (Please describe what breaks as well. Otherwise I might not notice it.)

I seen broken sites at least monthly. Uhaul's site broke for me yesterday (the photo upload process to tell them where to place a storage container).

Vangaurd's login page doesn't work with adblock (completely doesn't show it)

Don't have other examples off top of my head

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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Excuse me? What regulation requires cookie popups?

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=celex%3A... EU Directive 2009/136/EC

That is not a "regulation", it is a directive, requiring member states of the EU to implement appropriate legislation.

It applies to the legislatures of member states, which I believe doesn't yet include the USA.

Perhaps the clause you are thinking of is this one:

"(33) Customers should be informed of their rights with respect to the use of their personal information in subscriber directories and in particular of the purpose or purposes of such directories, as well as their right, free of charge, not to be included in a public subscriber directory, as provided for in Directive 2002/58/EC"

That directive doesn't call for a mist of popups to flash before your eyes before you can read content. It could easily be satisfied by a menu option that allows you to set your preferences. The mist of popups is caused by a bunch of angry data traders who don't care how much they annoy their users.

Incidentally, citing a directive from 2009 is a bit anachronistic: that directive is overridden by the GDPR.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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Even without the ads, you still have multiple cookie popups and banners, floating videos and newsletter notifications to closes before getting to the content. And of course as you scroll down some of those come back (floating videos in particular). There was a time where you could just close the tab if it was that bad, but now pretty much all websites are like this so there's no choice.

The GDPR cookie pop-ups that make navigation on mobile often nearly impossible was a major assault in the remaining open web. The EU bureaucrats that drafted it never created anything constructive in their lives, only regulated. As a result, less and less of the independent web is getting traffic, everything is consolidating in TikTok, Instagram and similar apps

That honestly just poor UX. But fair enough, there either aren’t many talented UX/UI designer, or companies aren’t using them.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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https://f-droid.org I've used Netguard off F-Droid before, it's really nice when you turn on the filter: https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard/blob/master/ADBLOCKING.md .

Adaway is also very nice and simple. Allows for custom hosts lists so requires root. I think they had a VPN option as well but haven't needed it.
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