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The end of the manual transmission is near?

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Re: The end of the manual transmission is near?

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Car shapes are substantially about pedestrian fatalities. You can't have those shapes back without murdering people who aren't even driving a vehicle.

Any idiot can see a 2022 ford truck is better than being hit by my 1988 Saab, which a 4 year old is visible over the hood on, as compared to a ford, which, I think I probably couldn't see my wife over the hood.

That statement is contradictory.

Re: The end of the manual transmission is near?

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Manual transmissions are dead. I grew up learning to drive a manual transmission car. Awesome. I loved the feeling of driving and shifting gears up the hilly, mountainous, twisty horrible roads in Jamaica. Exhilarating! But cars got better. I got older, and now automatic transmissions are so much more efficient than manual transmissions * for ordinary people *. We're not talking about people who love driving here. We…

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Re: The end of the manual transmission is near?

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On newer cars most every component from your tires to your rear window defroster phones home about your activity.

The tires, really?? I figured maybe the wheels but the tires?

Why not the tires? New cars come with tire pressure sensors and tire pressure plays a big role in fuel efficiency as well as safety. It's just a few more bits of info.

Anything that has a remote chance of making more profit than the competitor will be attempted. Even if it's morally questionable... moral != legal. Heck, VW even threw legality out the window with emissions shenanigans a few years ago.

I'm not arguing that it's wrong or right... it's just the entrepreneur's duty to try and the consumer's obligation to keep things in check.

Caveat emptor.

Re: The end of the manual transmission is near?

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There's nothing worse than getting stuck in traffic going up a slick hill in a Midwest winter with a manual transmission. Your car goes backward!

I've driven a manual for many years, and I never got this complaint. I always found it perfectly straightforward to get moving on a steep uphill with just a little clutch control. Maybe you roll backwards a few inches if you're a little slow, but so what? Despite appearances, you're never actually that close to anything.

Re: The end of the manual transmission is near?

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Adding to the list of places where manual transmissions are still common - I still see them in a lot of Japanese kei trucks[1]. These are super minimalist trucks used for agricultural and other jobs that cost less than $7,500. Upgrading to a CVT transmission adds an extra $500 or so to the price - which seems worth it to me - but when you consider that a lot of the work these are used for is low-margin to begin with,…

Those are also very popular in Taiwan. They are essentially the pickup trucks equivalent. The nickname for these cars is “Make A Fortune Car” (or make money car).

Re: The end of the manual transmission is near?

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Yelchin's case looks like a consequence of an unconventional user design for the gearstick, rather than a consequence of manual cars in general. From The Washington Post [0]: "The parents of Anton Yelchin, the “Star Trek” actor who died in 2016 when his SUV rolled down his driveway and trapped him against a security gate, have reached a settlement with the makers of Jeep Grand Cherokee. "[..] [In 2015], [the National…

It was an automatic transmission not a manual transmission car. Manual = {1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, R}

Thanks, that makes much more sense. I was visualizing the problem vehicle as a stick shift with the neutral in any of position but the center (aka in an "in gear" position), which in hindsight wouldn't work.

Re: The end of the manual transmission is near?

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It’s more than just about style. As much as modern pickup trucks have become a fashion statement, many large pickup trucks are providing real utility to construction, farming, etc. And much like 18 wheelers they can’t scale down the front while maintaining utility because they need large engines and high ground clearance.

So what? The question stands.

You asked why, and the answer is cost vs benefit. Car styling alone doesn’t justify the risk to pedestrians, large truck utility can. Yes, this tradeoff kills people, but so do all sorts of things like not physically preventing cars from driving 80+MPH.

Re: The end of the manual transmission is near?

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A great number of the cool designs from the 50's and 60's are illegal because the front of the car eats people. Swallows them, chews them up, and spits them out. The sloped design of new cars isn't just about aerodynamics. In a low-speed impact a pedestrian is lifted onto the hood. Forward leaning grills, such as on the Dodge Charger, some of the beefier Mustangs, and any number of other muscle cars or sedans, instea…

Okay but then why is the rolling brick wall of a modern pickup allowed?

Because they’re classified as pickup trucks i.e. a farm vehicle even though most of them will never drive through mud.

Re: The end of the manual transmission is near?

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I doubt I'll never buy an automatic transmission vehicle. If that means never buying a new car after some point, then so be it. I've had quite a few manual transmission cars over the years and have driven them through all the things people complain about like steep hills in icy winters, stop and go traffic for an hour or two commute, etc. and I'd still go for a MT every time. Not only is it cheaper and less complex,…

You'll never own an electric car?

Electric cars don't have automatic transmissions.

Re: The end of the manual transmission is near?

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I reiterate my compromise proposal: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32397975 I will give up my manual transmission, if you will bring back pull-knobs, twist knobs and other tactile switches for the main controls of my vehicle, with the appropriate tactile feedback at set points so I can set them without looking. After thinking on it, I am going to raise my demands, however: you also need to produce cars that are…

> reasonably sized as in the 50s and 60s. Fire all your designers, go back to whatever your models were in 1965 What alternate dimension are you from? My older brother had a 60's Ford Fairlane when I was growing up. My first car was a 67 mustang. I had a friend with a 68 Camaro. I knew someone else that had multiple Thunderbirds from that era. These were not small cars. The Mustang and Camaro were the size of a full…

> Those are the coupes. The sedans, such as the Fairlane and Thunderbird? Those were about as big as a modern full size crew cab pickup.

I’m reminded of my grandparent’s 1979 Cadillac (Not sure of the model). It barely fit in the garage. They parked their Chevy Suburban in that same garage.

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