Mercedes and Ferrari’s edge in the electric car age: high-end axial motors • Hacker News Board

Re: Mercedes and Ferrari’s edge in the electric car age: high-end axial motors

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Post by dang » Tue, Aug 23, 2022, 6:24 PM UTC

suction wrote: post #206

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the "old" manufacturers have pretty much all released excellent EV cars across the market They are just about getting there as of last year, after 15 years of saying they were going to. e.g. look back at VWs claims about how they were going to be an EV leader back in 2013, vs how long it took them to actually get the ID3/ID4 done. e.g. "Volkswagen Group will be the world leader in electric and hybrid cars by 2018, it…

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Re: Mercedes and Ferrari’s edge in the electric car age: high-end axial motors

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Post by dncornholio » Wed, Aug 24, 2022, 9:32 AM UTC

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You mean, plaid has terrible Nordsleife performance? Overheating, super bad brakes and they run out of charge after 1 lap. Also, the lap-record of the plaid is not impressive at all compared to ICE. The plaid lap-time was not on a standard car. They had ceramic brakes which you cannot order from Tesla. There were probably more modifications done on the car. Also, a part from the weight, the range of EV vehicles serio…

"Plaid's Nurb lap only showed how far behind these cars really are still. " It basically has the all-drivetrain production sedan. Oh sure... Tesla doesn't offer 50 racing trims like Porsche and BMW. Whatever. Tesla did some afterthought track kit and broke the record. But... sure, go ahead and pretend it doesn't. I loved how Jalopnik commenters collectively shit their pants and called false news like they are used to…

Electric vehicles are terrible for racing. All your arguments are things that don't even exist yet. I'm not a motorhead, I'm trying to be unbiased.

The Tesla is absolutely not ready for Nurburgring laps. It did a quick time but that's just marketing. Tesla's are not race ready. Again, the brakes suck, they are terrible, dangerously so. The battery will overheat and you can't do more than one lap.

Again, currently, EV is still far behind to be competitive to ICE for racing.

Re: Mercedes and Ferrari’s edge in the electric car age: high-end axial motors

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Post by texasbigdata » Wed, Aug 31, 2022, 12:45 PM UTC

rsynnott wrote: post #223

texasbigdata wrote: post #177

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I'm not really familiar with this market but I'll just quote one article from last week suggesting it's a bit more lopsided than that; things can change quickly obviously. "Tesla accounts for more than two-thirds of all-electric car registrations (almost 68%), which is a dominant position, but the non-Tesla electric vehicle sales are growing at a similar rate and potentially might outpace Tesla later this year." If y…

> If youre outselling everyone else _combined_ that suggests a clear current market winner. I mean, if you assume the US is the only market which exists, then, yeah, okay? Tesla is third or fourth in Europe and in China, both of which are larger BEV markets than the US, though. The electric car market has been slower to develop in the US than in Europe and China for a variety of reasons (fuel's cheaper in the US for…

Fair. Good point.