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What the Hell Is Up with Dilbert?

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Re: What the Hell Is Up with Dilbert?

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Post by tenpies »

clutchdude wrote: post #34

I find it humorous that the usual tone deaf HR stuff suddenly becomes a lightning rod of "wokeness" for certain folks because it personally offends them. But with Scott Adams, you can see that this sort of stuff always irked him - look back at Dilbert poking fun at sensitivity training in the 90's - he did have the progressive take of making Asok and Alice as the equally, if not more, competent than their peers(ed: t…

Is it now well known that Dilbert exists solely because Scott Adams was told - as a young executive - that he would not be promoted further because he is a white male? [1]

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[1] https://twitter.com/scottadamssays/status/127766727657395404...

Re: What the Hell Is Up with Dilbert?

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Post by cjbgkagh »

dragontamer wrote: post #223
Agamus wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I have it right, she feels a great deal of frustration and betrayal. But apparently not enough to give up hope that her idea is the best course to achieve progress for society.

But all the true fiscal conservatives have basically been kicked out of the Republican party. Liz Cheney for speaking out against Trump. Paul Ryan for compromising too much. Jon Huntsman for having adopted Chinese kids. I too am a fiscal conservative who largely identifies as Republican. Alas, it's very hard for me to say that today's Republicans represent me. No one actually tries to balance the budget and it's all…

Wouldn't Rand Paul count as a fiscal conservatives who hasn't been kicked out? And how is Liz Cheney a fiscal conservative? Granted that I don't know enough about US politics to be sure - but isn't Dick Cheney super corrupt. I'm not sure if fiscal conservativism counts if the government is saving money on social programs so they could send it to Halliburton instead.

It's impossible to ask one side to balance the budget without punishing the other side for not balancing the budget. The voters just don't care. The connection between poor policies and their consequences are so drawn out that they've practically been severed.

Re: What the Hell Is Up with Dilbert?

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Post by dragonwriter »

tenpies wrote: post #281
clutchdude wrote: post #34

I find it humorous that the usual tone deaf HR stuff suddenly becomes a lightning rod of "wokeness" for certain folks because it personally offends them. But with Scott Adams, you can see that this sort of stuff always irked him - look back at Dilbert poking fun at sensitivity training in the 90's - he did have the progressive take of making Asok and Alice as the equally, if not more, competent than their peers(ed: t…

Is it now well known that Dilbert exists solely because Scott Adams was told - as a young executive - that he would not be promoted further because he is a white male? [1] --- [1] https://twitter.com/scottadamssays/status/127766727657395404...

It is well-known that Adams claimed that long after the fact, which is somewhat different from it being known to be true.

Re: What the Hell Is Up with Dilbert?

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Post by eropple »

cjbgkagh wrote: post #282
dragontamer wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But all the true fiscal conservatives have basically been kicked out of the Republican party. Liz Cheney for speaking out against Trump. Paul Ryan for compromising too much. Jon Huntsman for having adopted Chinese kids. I too am a fiscal conservative who largely identifies as Republican. Alas, it's very hard for me to say that today's Republicans represent me. No one actually tries to balance the budget and it's all…

Wouldn't Rand Paul count as a fiscal conservatives who hasn't been kicked out? And how is Liz Cheney a fiscal conservative? Granted that I don't know enough about US politics to be sure - but isn't Dick Cheney super corrupt. I'm not sure if fiscal conservativism counts if the government is saving money on social programs so they could send it to Halliburton instead. It's impossible to ask one side to balance the budg…

> Wouldn't Rand Paul count as a fiscal conservatives who hasn't been kicked out?

Rand Paul happily soaks up district money while performatively voting against things that help other people and in 2021 signed onto a deal to hand Israel a bunch of money for Iron Dome. If he's a "fiscal conservative", I am the Queen of France.

Re: What the Hell Is Up with Dilbert?

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Post by logicalmonster »

muglug wrote: post #92
logicalmonster wrote: post #15

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That's not a good explanation to me. Think of Hollywood: dominated by wealthy and out of touch artists. With very few exceptions, they all publicly express politically correct and safe ideas that ensures they keep making money comfortably. That's the total opposite of the direction Scott Adams has been going.

Eh I think you’re wrong about Hollywood: the big-name actors generally don’t spend their time talking politics. Most big actors understand that the more they talk politics, the less bankable they are, and the dollar wins out most of the time.

I feel that you're answering a bit of a straw man argument.

The topic wasn't how much of their time they spend talking about politics, it's what kind of opinions they express when they do choose to make some public statement related to politics. And the answer to that is that they know who butters their bread (Hollywood Producers) and whenever they say something political, more often than not it's not going to be something that causes them problem for their employment.

Re: What the Hell Is Up with Dilbert?

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Post by AinderS »

izietto wrote: post #173
AinderS wrote: post #168

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Quoted post unavailable.

Aren't there no-vax in US?

And antibiotics? And anti-X-ray? There's a million different medical advances, you can always find someone against (or suspicious of) a few of them. That doesn't mean all of conservatism is against all of them, as woodruffw would have you believe.

Re: What the Hell Is Up with Dilbert?

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Post by eropple »

jjoonathan wrote: post #232
gingerrr wrote: post #152

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> So it was conservative to worry about the rise of Trump and the Alt Right? No, because as we saw in the 1930 and 40s this strain of virulent fascism is not new, but sadly quite traditional - this was the conservatism bubbling through in reaction to modern liberalism. > It's conservative to wish Roe had remained on the books? If Roe had been an office worker they wouldn't have even qualified for early retirement, th…

> this strain of virulent fascism is not new To the world? No. To recent American politics? Yes, very much so. There is no problem with taking the long perspective in your definitions, so long as you are consistent about it, but: > If you're worried about society changing, there is no definition of the word "progressive"

> To recent American politics? Yes, very much so.

It really isn't. George Wallace ran in 1968. David Duke ran in 1988.

American home-grown fascism is a historical fact.

Re: What the Hell Is Up with Dilbert?

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Post by [deleted] »

rcarmo wrote: post #24

I used to love Dilbert because it echoed (down to every single minute detail) my work environment (which, like Adams', was a telco). Then it became creepy because it anticipated everything that was coming to pass (sometimes the very day, sometimes within a week, we'd have reorgs, discussions with Marketing, trips to our equivalent of Elbonia). The peak, for me, was when Dogbert was hailed as a cloud guru the week I s…

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Re: What the Hell Is Up with Dilbert?

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Post by medwards666 »

ajot wrote: post #237
dahart wrote: post #210

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Hearsay from an unnamed relative printed in a tabloid is evidence? Even if it were true, what does a single case prove?

Well, sure it is a tabloid, but it's a real news from here. And I'm pretty sure it started a trend, even if it's not big enough to be reported yet.

Nothing, but nothing, about the Daily Mail constitutes _real_ news.

Re: What the Hell Is Up with Dilbert?

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Post by mbg721 »

eropple wrote: post #284
cjbgkagh wrote: post #282

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't Rand Paul count as a fiscal conservatives who hasn't been kicked out? And how is Liz Cheney a fiscal conservative? Granted that I don't know enough about US politics to be sure - but isn't Dick Cheney super corrupt. I'm not sure if fiscal conservativism counts if the government is saving money on social programs so they could send it to Halliburton instead. It's impossible to ask one side to balance the budg…

> Wouldn't Rand Paul count as a fiscal conservatives who hasn't been kicked out? Rand Paul happily soaks up district money while performatively voting against things that help other people and in 2021 signed onto a deal to hand Israel a bunch of money for Iron Dome. If he's a "fiscal conservative", I am the Queen of France.

Rand certainly isn't Ron, but, like the rest of the country, he's in a situation where voters have to choose between 2+2=4.75 and 2+2=purple.
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