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Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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I sometimes wonder what the world would be like without FAANG. I'm lead to believe the world would be a better place if all companies would have a max company size of Bose, or Sennheiser. Then no stupid decisions could be pushed through by force, like the removal of the 3.5 mm jack. If the market really wants it, they will eventually vote with their wallet. Same goes with social media, fb killed off local country-spe…

The market wants what the other segment of the market has, that's the purpose of marketing. Phones with no jacks, like laptops with no i/o, is something impractical that people self-justify because of the logo and the clout it affords. You're part of the in group, you made it, you have achieved sameness, you have an iPhone . Airpods are just about the worst headphones money can buy and people fight over them, despite…

I am extremely puzzled by true wireless bluetooth headphones to a point where it's hard to find high-end wired bluetooth headphones.

True wireless have so many drawbacks: - lower battery life yet people got convinced that they last long thanks to powerbank, I meant ,,case" which you need to carry.

- bulkier so they stick out of ear one way or another. They fall down easily when changing t-shirts, huddies .. - easy to lose

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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They most certainly were not: https://www.engadget.com/2009-06-29-nokia-apple-rim-and-othe...

Thankfully that EU initiative failed. They wanted the industry to adopt micro-usb as the standard, which would have sucked and would be worse than the situation today

How was getting all manufacturers to agree a "failure"?

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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The annoying thing I have with bluetooth, is with my headphones, I connect them up, set them as the sound source and just..... nothing. I have to go round all of my devices and disable the bluetooth on them, because some other device is connected too and although that is not playing any sound at all, somehow has priority and doesn't allow any sound to be played by any other device.

> I have to go round all of my devices and disable the bluetooth on them, because some other device is connected too Sigh. If only there was some kind of mechanism to indicate physically which of the devices you want the sound to come from. A thin string of sorts, that you could attach easily to both devices to indicate that these two are to be connected. But we can only dream...

As long as you don't have to keep the string connected to use the device after pairing, I think that's a good idea.

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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My car (Lexus) and my iPhone X: The car detects iPhone presence, like, 50% of the time. If it does detect it, it shows me a couple of half-naked shaved guys hugging each other and begins playing "Songs of Innocence" the moment I turn the ignition on. I tried deleting this song from the iPhone, but it auto-magically restores itself somehow, as if it is in the telephone's firmware. The image of men hugging in shade is…

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Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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The general idea I think is that once you start the car, it just send a play command the moment it detects the connection. And in theory it _can_ provide a really nice experience. For example I'm walking to my car listening to an audio book, the moment I start the car, BT is connecting to the phone and moves the audio playback from my AirPods to my car speaker without skipping a beat, its really impressive. Additiona…

> …since I'm an Apple Music user, whenever I start the car, it just defaults to whatever's I've been listening to there… […] Now why apple just defaults to Apple Music, and not "your music player of choice a.k.a. Spotify" is questionable… As you noted, it continues playing whatever you were playing in whatever app you were using, with no preference for Apple Music (I'm also a Music subscriber). If you were playing so…

Too often I start my car and it begins playing a podcast where I left off. With my kids in the car. I listen to a decent amount of stuff that isn't necessarily appropriate for kids. Makes for a fun scramble to hit that pause button.

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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My car (Lexus) and my iPhone X: The car detects iPhone presence, like, 50% of the time. If it does detect it, it shows me a couple of half-naked shaved guys hugging each other and begins playing "Songs of Innocence" the moment I turn the ignition on. I tried deleting this song from the iPhone, but it auto-magically restores itself somehow, as if it is in the telephone's firmware. The image of men hugging in shade is…

Similar thing would happen in my Toyota, the song 'Afraid' by Yellowcard would play every time I turned on the car. Realized it was playing the first song in my library. In Apple Music there is a song called 'A a a a a Very Good Song (Silent Track)' by artist Samir Mezrahi, that contains 10 minutes of silence. I added that to my library and now that song plays when I turn on my car (although this autoplay only happen…

My Toyota only plays my iPhone bluetooth if (a) my car is in bluetooth "mode" and not radio and (b) I have my music app open.

I've never experienced what you (two) describe. 2020 Toy and iPhone 11.

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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Bluetooth works ok if you're not sharing receivers or if you don't have more than one device acting as transmitter. Anything beyond that where you're mixing and switching devices, or sharing receivers (like multiple speakers in your household etc.) it gets so easily confused.

I've even had problems following my wife's car. Despite being fully paired with my car and working great, the transmitter (phone) will keep trying to connect to hers.

It's probably one of the most frustrating mainstream technologies that you're basically forced to use as physical connections become less and less available.

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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I haven't driven for a few years but my iPhone 4 always used to connect and work with my Peugeot 307 perfectly.

Everyone in this thread who is complaining has either a Lexus or a Toyota (who owns Lexus) so it’s obviously a problem with some version of their infotainment system. The U2 thing was obviously an Apple issue. Not sure why they don’t use CarPlay but maybe some people prefer Bluetooth.

I was in a Volkswagen rental last week and the Carplay integration was a disaster. 50% of the time, attempting to play a song on spotify would crash Carplay. It would refuse to work again (or hey, crash again) until you'd left the car off for a lengthy amount of time. Presumably the car turns off the infotainment system at some point, so this is a reboot, but there was no way to reboot manually... So it would remain broken for the drive.

Seems like manufacturers aren't integrating particularly robust systems on the average

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