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Re: Thoughts on the potato diet

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Post by rootusrootus »

GordonS wrote: post #125
safety1st wrote: post #30

There's actually some science behind this diet. Potatoes are the highest scoring food on the satiety index. https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/15-incredibly-filling-f... Basically they're the most filling food per calorie. So if you subscribe to the idea that losing weight is mainly about how many calories you consume, a potato heavy diet should be effective. And an all potato diet, while monomaniacal, even more ef…

This seems highly unlikely to me. I have reactive hypoglycemia, and can say that potatoes spike my blood glucose levels more than table sugar - they have a really high glycemic index, and anyone with blood sugar issues should totally avoid them IMO. And the thing about foods with a high glycemic index is that they cause you to feel hungry when your blood sugar rapidly drops back to baseline. I find protein and fat wa…

> eat 2 eggs for breakfast and I guarantee you won't even think a out food again until lunch time, if not dinner time.

Tried that. Two eggs and a piece of toast will get me easily to lunch. Four eggs will get me an hour or so, despite having more calories.

Re: Thoughts on the potato diet

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Post by xeromal »

djmips wrote: post #82
friedman23 wrote: post #51

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I wonder where the misinformation that potatoes were unhealthy / fattening came from? Was it from french fries and fried starches?

The Glycemic Index (GI) looks bad, even look at the chart in the article. However the GI for potatoes changes depending on how you eat them. Cold potatoes have a much lower GI than hot freshly served.

Wow, really? That is very interesting? Too bad hot potatoes are delicious. I think as long as I air fried mine and let them cool to room temp, I would enjoy them.

Re: Thoughts on the potato diet

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Post by rootusrootus »

GordonS wrote: post #240
leksak wrote: post #235

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I eat six eggs for breakfast, with vegetables and maybe a bowl of kefir with some mango and I'm hungry around 10 — breakfast being at 7-8.

I guess you're an outlier (or have a tapeworm :) I physically can't eat any more than 3 eggs because I'd feel completely full.

I'm the same [as the person who you are replying to]. Eggs are good as part of a meal, but they don't fill me up. I need a bit of carbs to go with them.

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Post by screamingpotat »

Potato diet given milk/butter seems quite doable, Ireland lived off milk and oats for a very long time and potatoes, especially older varieties are incredibly nutritious given the skin so mixed with dairy JT seems like a relatively manageable diet.

Re: Thoughts on the potato diet

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Post by trentgreene »

diordiderot wrote: post #270
stjohnswarts wrote: post #245

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This is bro science. Sorry dude. Caloric intake matter because in the end it is CICO. However, there are foods that absolutely make you feel full quicker and for a longer period of time and that matters as much as calories because if you can't fight off the hunger because your diet is primarily white bread and doritos as opposed to healthy fats , greens, and proteins then calories won't matter because you will 100% f…

It could be much much more than CICO. If you want to read an epic saga on modern obesity and it's theories check out https://slimemoldtimemold.com/2021/07/07/a-chemical-hunger-p...

It seems like everything in that article reinforces CICO. Is there something that diverges from the CICO model that I might be missing?

E.G. it’s examples of the Maasai and Inuit eating higher calories make a lot of sense when you consider their exposure to temp extremes and additional cal burn coming from thermoregulation (along with probably elevated levels of daily activity).

Most of the nuance I’ve seen around CICO that holds isn’t that CICO isn’t true, it’s that the intake and output are hard to calculate when you look at nutrient absorption and lifestyle

Re: Thoughts on the potato diet

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Post by rootusrootus »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #162
com2kid wrote: post #130

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Peanut butter doesn't fill me up at all. I can consume 1k calories of it, nothing, still hungry after. Same with fish, I cannot get full eating fish in any quantity. Shrimp, sure, but not fish. Nuts, same deal. I'll eat 500+ calories of nuts, does nothing for me.

See a doctor.

Eh, different people respond to food differently. This is not controversial. This whole discussion has a huge amount of bro science, and very little actual science. To the limited extent such a thing even exists in the nutritional space.

Re: Thoughts on the potato diet

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Post by xeromal »

lucideer wrote: post #276
zhynn wrote: post #179

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I did the SMTM study and they prohibited dairy. So I got my B12 from sweet potato.

Sweet potato doesn't contain B12 - you're probably thinking of Vitamin A. Dairy doesn't contain enough B12 to supplement you on it's own, which is why the study recommends against and instead suggests taking an actual B12 supplement (Puritan's Pride lozenges) 4 weeks shouldn't be enough time to develop a serious B12 deficiency but doing this for longer could impair you cognitively.

Is there an easy way to test your B12 when on this diet?

Re: Thoughts on the potato diet

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Post by rootusrootus »

xeromal wrote: post #282
djmips wrote: post #82

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The Glycemic Index (GI) looks bad, even look at the chart in the article. However the GI for potatoes changes depending on how you eat them. Cold potatoes have a much lower GI than hot freshly served.

Wow, really? That is very interesting? Too bad hot potatoes are delicious. I think as long as I air fried mine and let them cool to room temp, I would enjoy them.

It's not really about the heat. They undergo a change as they cool down which changes the GI. Heating them back up does not reverse that, so you can still have hot potatoes with the lower GI effect as long as you cool them down first.

Re: Thoughts on the potato diet

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Post by xeromal »

ramesh31 wrote: post #15

Eat less food and move more. There's literally nothing to losing weight beyond that. It's incredible to me the amount of mental gymnastics that people will perform to avoid facing this.

This take does nothing for people who are addicted to food. It's not easy and many people don't have the willpower to make it happen without doing a gimmick like this. Your comment seems a bit holier-than-thou. If they lose weight doign the potato diet instead of stoic-ing it away like you, are they less successful?
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