I’m not so sure the LOTR series is ideal for expansion. It feels like Peter Jackson has already tackled all the really interesting parts of the LOTR world.
Just wait until the magic moment where Sauron tells Frodo that he's his father.
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Christopher Tolkien I think was fairly correct in his analysis of the LoTR films, and I think it became clear with the Hobbit what the ultimate conclusion of that style of treatment of the source material would be. What he got wrong is that they're perfectly fun and good films in their own right - it'd be more accurate to say they're heavily inspired by the LoTR books rather than being direct adaptions. In some cases…
Denethor and Faramir treatment hurt.. My number 1 gripe was the army of the dead being the deus ex machina making rest of the battle pointless joke. This is after making perfect entrance for Rohan I like the movies and enjoy watching them, some parts are masterpieces but some not so much.
What was the original army of the dead like? It always seemed like the weakest point of all the films and certainly the most glaring plot hole of why didn’t they keep using them.
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That (and the follow-on) weren't too bad. Much better than Lynch's treatment. I must say, though, that I'm looking forward to part 2 of Villeneuve's Dune .
The miniseries and especially Children of Dune are so much better that the recent movie.
I find it's a tradeoff.
The new movie represents some of the visuals and environment better (in my mind), but skimps on the story.
I feel that Baron Harkonnen is better, in the movie. He was almost comedic, in the series.
Charlotte Rampling would not have been my choice for the Bene Gesserit mother, but I think she actually works.
I'm not too happy with any of the other casting choices, except Gurney Halleck, but, for some strange reason, they never consulted me.
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And we all know how it ended once they ran out of his material. Yes, I'm still salty.
I never even bothered with Season 8.
A friend of friends was a massive GoT fan. Massive fan, could not wait to see more.
Before the last season was done, he had a heart attack and passed away. People were saying for months after that how lucky he was.
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>How about the repeated obsession with female characters who can easily beat up men? The thing you complain about is in the source material. Remember? "No man can kill me", "I am no man", stab stab stab. >But watching these women beat up men is laughable tbh. Maybe ask some famle survivors of domestic violence how they feel about this. How is that any different than tiny weak Hobbits killing giant spiders and otherwi…
Storytelling, that's how. Which doesn't exist. What you'll notice is that in better storytelling, there will be an explanation of why the hobbit can beat the giant spider. Outsmarting it, being invisible with a ring, whatever. Good storytelling means you make the impossible seem possible. Now, all we have is token women who we all know are there because they are women, beating up men in ridiculously impossible ways,…
> there will be an explanation of why the hobbit can beat the giant spider
Please give me a timestamp in this scene when that happens:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfJirrzRQ60&ab_channel=TheLo...
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> I just wish the government would finally break them up so that AWS could keep it's profits and stop funding the rest of the unprofitable divisions. I really don't get this sentiment. AWS was a loss making unit once much like any other innovative idea. Amazon funds 1000s of different ideas with the intention that few will work. If government would break up companies like this, there would be no interest in pursuing…
I get where you're coming from, but it doesn't hold water when you reach the scale of a company like Amazon, for the time periods we're talking about. The entire retail market is being undercut by Amazon Retail. Competition is being reduced to fewer and fewer competitors- which is bad for the consumer in the long run. All the while, Amazon retail can afford to lose hundreds of millions of dollars per year, over and o…
It holds specially for company like Amazon. Do you know how many business Amazon is running on loss? AFAIK they are very liberal in spending in R and D or with long term motive. AWS was once such a project. Who would have though that companies are ready to spend 5x if you add extra services alongside the server.
Also, AFAIK Amazon shopping site is not in loss in US. Your suggestion could have made sense if Amazon is using AWS money to strengthen the monopoly, but Amazon shopping is a profitable business, in part due to advertisement.
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#287After Wheel of Time my expectations are so incredibly low, if it still manages to disappoint I will be impressed. I'm expecting a shitshow and a shitstorm of epic proportions.
Have to agree! I'm not sure what I was expecting with Wheel of Time, but I wasn't expecting it to look so cheap. Also one of the central characters wears a pullover in early episodes that's definitely dry-clean only, and had definitely just been dry-cleaned. While it sounds like a little thing, it's the little things that add up to an immersive world.
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#288It can't be worse than wheel of time ... or can it?
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Is it possible the reason it ended so badly is the same reason they ran out of material? It's been 11 years since the last ASOIAF novel. I think GRRM may have written himself into a corner and is unsure how to tie up all the threads and satisfactorily end the series.
[Spoilers Below] I think you are spot on about ASOIAF, but I don't think this is the reason GoT ended badly. Books and TV Show started diverting much earlier, and the show had substantially fewer storylines, which is a good thing in this context I think. I also suspect that the ending we got is based on notes GRRM left. Daenerys turning evil is heavily foreshadowed, Bran ending up on the throne kinda makes sense, and…
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On Twitter late last year, I saw what was probably the single best idea that would have greatly improved the last few episodes, and could probably have been accomplished with a single scene (and maybe still could for a future "definitive edition").
The idea is that at some point prior to the last two episodes, Danerys receives word that Mereen has fallen, and that the slavers have retaken it. Her greatest achievement in "breaking the wheel" is now gone, and her designs to be the next Aegon are no longer nearly as assured.
Building on this idea, the scene could play out with her completely losing it and threatening to burn Mereen to the ground, her advisors only barely talking her out of flying across the Narrow Sea right then and there.
Mereen's destruction is averted, but the seed has been planted in the viewer's mind: Danerys has much less to lose now, and she's willing to rain fire on a populace with enough provocation. Now when the other shoe drops and she does this on King's Landing, the turn has enough narrative foundation to feel plausible and earned.
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LOTR, and also Peter Jackson are not compatible with modern media. LOTR is completely opposed storytelling wise to the current dogmas of postmodernism and equity, it's fundamentally a story based on old western/european/christian myths, basically what gets called white supremacy these days. I think this will turn out to be an absolute morbid tv series as it will force LOTR into the current dogmas, but this is probabl…
although i wouldn’t have worded it the same way, there’s definitely something true in your comment. I’m still amazed that people keep torturing stories made at different eras with different mentalities to try and promote today’s philosophy instead of coming with original materials. If you want diversity and black people on screen, why not create stories about the amazing empires that ruled the african continent in th…
Aside for the lack of new, original and iconic characters and stories, we are living in a bad period for reboots of our favourite stories to be re-made and re-written by americans.
I only hope it will end soon.