The trimodal nature of software salaries in the Netherlands and Europe (2021)

Post by Aeolun » Sun, Jul 03, 2022, 12:27 PM UTC

tgv wrote: post #232

kortilla wrote: post #184

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> They should work on They work on what society rewards them to work on. Attach massive guaranteed funding to companies that solve this problems and it will attract smart people competing for it.

That's a spin, and a bad one. First, it isn't society that rewards them, it's private companies and investment bankers. Second, you limit reward to monetary compensation. Third, people are not forced to take the best paying jobs. Doing so is selfish, which is the GP's point.

Post by Aeolun » Sun, Jul 03, 2022, 12:37 PM UTC

ido wrote: post #219

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So what if you are sick? You are using your normal vacation days?

It’s more about the definition of “sick”. I’ve seen people take a week off because they had a bit of a throat/head ache. And others that worked from home when they had a flu.

Post by Aeolun » Sun, Jul 03, 2022, 12:45 PM UTC

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Well that really depends. I was outsourcing to India when it was still cheap. I probably did something wrong, but I provided definition of the project, set of unit tests and access to git repository so they can upload the result. I got completely useless trash code, incoherent excuses and wasted time. I paid the company for their "work" and never considered outsourcing again. Sometimes cheap means horrendously expens…

This might get a bad rep but I've had this experience too. It's not a blanket statement though. Outsourcing is fine but you definitely have need to do your homework. That's why you see a few of the outsourcing companies being bought over by their employers, because they're good. Out of curiosity and related to another HN topic, have you ever hired freelancers directly?

Post by brtkdotse » Sun, Jul 03, 2022, 1:00 PM UTC

Aeolun wrote: post #279

brtkdotse wrote: post #272

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> In Europe, it's much difficult to start a company and people aren't of typical mindset to jump start a company into global dominance. This is such a tired meme. It’s _orders of magnitude_ easier to start at company in a lot of European countries compared to the US. Creation process is in a lot of cases filling in a web form, paying €100 and waiting a week or two (yes, yes, in know it not like that everywhere). Furt…

It’s certainly not easy to start a company posied for world dominance when a lot of local laws and culture prevent you from working your employees to the bone. The average workweek in the Netherlands is 28 hours a week. You may shift this if you are a startup, but culture is certainly something that affects your propensity to generate unicorns.

Post by digianarchist » Sun, Jul 03, 2022, 2:46 PM UTC

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digianarchist wrote: post #79

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There can be huge tax advantages in the US compared to Canada or the EU. My effective rate in California is 24% because I can file my taxes jointly which isn't possible elsewhere.

It may not be possible everywhere but it’s certainly possible elsewhere (my wife and I also file jointly in Germany).