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Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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Only when conversations are in English right? I can still use the local language? :D

The transcripts are available in more and more languages so perhaps it’s time to learn Navaho.

Worked for WW2…

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#282

Anyone else miss Office 97? You just installed it locally off a disc and it just worked when you needed it. You didn’t even need internet.

you can still ban internet access in firewall and activate it locally, I'm using last offline installable Office 2019, 365 can't touch my computer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do people persist in using work emails for personal things like job interviews?

I think it's just another unfortunate manifestation of the phenomenon that Big Tech loves to exploit --- that people seem to care very little about privacy in general, or perhaps have been guided gently in the direction of doing so by those who stand to profit the most strongly from it. In your specific example, there could be a slightly more positive reason --- proof that you do actually have a job at where you clai…

> that people seem to care very little about privacy in general, or perhaps have been guided gently in the direction of doing so by those who stand to profit the most strongly from it.

It's not just that they don't care: it's like they see some privacy-invasive thing and automatically use it because it's privacy invasive

Like whenever people not only use chrome, but are logged into their google account 24/7 while using chrome (I'm sorry if the reader does this...). I get it if there's some niche feature that requires it, but most of the people I know who do this aren't doing it for that reason (or any reason at all I guess)

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Signal and WhatsApp aren't 100% trust worthy though. Why not pick something you can host yourself?

Right, I'm tired of this. E2EE doesn't mean anything if you have the same entity controlling the server as is controlling the endpoints. If you control both ends of an E2EE communication and they are closed then you gain nothing over normal TLS encryption, you still trust the authority. (Whatsapp is obviously closed and yes, signal can be considered effectively closed as their client is not reliably or reproducably b…

Other people can audit it. That gives you a fair amount more assurance than non-E2E.

In addition to the theoretical benefits of E2E, I get actual noticeable behavior benefits. I've sent links to a family member on Facebook Messenger that it decided to censor and my messages didn't get sent. This happens to others as well[1]. There are reports of similar things happening with SMS[2]. That doesn't happen with WhatsApp or Signal.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28341737

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29744347

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

#285

This seems to be office 365 implementing monitoring of official communications of employees & contractors for the office account? I don’t think it extends to a personal office 365 account, at least it didn’t seem to. Why is this exactly newsworthy? Any communication through official channels is the property of the employer anyway. To collude, leave & other stuff use personal channels maybe.

> Why is this exactly newsworthy? Any communication through official channels is the property of the employer anyway.

Is this sentence meant descriptive or normative? Because there are definitely juristrictions where it is not that easy (e.g EU).

If it is meant normative then I wonder if you also think they "own" all conversations happening on corporate ground? Should they be allowed to record anywhere on corporate property, and use what they record in any way?

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There are engineers who thought it would be a good idea to develop and train these models.

Are there? I think it's much more likely there are engineers that were told to work on this, and thought that working on this would be fun, let them have an ML project, be a learning opportunity, give them something good for their performance packet, give them good experience, be good for visibility in the org, and many things like that. I don't know why jumping to the most far reaching evil option is popular in thre…

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31604567

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#287

"The leavers classifier detects messages that explicitly express intent to leave the organization, which is an early signal that may put the organization at risk of malicious or inadvertent data exfiltration upon departure". In other words "how to promote and encourage paranoid behaviors from employers" :(

Have you seen high schools in the US? Once I discovered that every school-issued machine had a VNC server running on it I assumed that the contents of my screen were being recorded at every moment. Turns out I was half right, as I caught up with the IT guy afterwards and the principal (a paranoid sociopath who shouldn't be anywhere near kids) wanted the ability to catch kids when she thought they were looking at non-…

I am so glad to be living in a country where shenanigans like this are deeply illegal and where violations would see employers/principals facing actual jail time, so nobody does it. Land of the free indeed.

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

#289

Remember the gfood old days of Usenet with signatures that deliberately contained keywards to try and DDoS the NSA's "line eater"

You can still find them in the email signature of any communication from one Richard M. Stallman!

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

#290
Employees get what they need and give what they can..

But seriously, I always found it amusing that once you step into a corporate you can get food, drinks & other amnesties for free.. almost like it's a socialist society.. But when said employees step outside, they are the first in-line for the capitalist agenda..

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