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Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Post by dvdkon »

pzlarsson wrote: post #40

It has a trackpoint with 2 buttons which tells us they did not put any serious effort into this input device. Would you use a 2 button mouse without scroll-wheel or a touchpad without 2-fingers scrolling? I suspect this low effort goes for the whole product which is a budget laptop with marketing directed at decision makers instead of users.

HP's been making two-button "trackpoints" forever. I don't get it either, but it's tradition at this point, not some sign of laziness.

And the laptop is decidedly not a budget laptop rebadge. It looks more like a tweaked EliteBook, their high-end business line. That doesn't automatically make it good, but I think your comment was unfair.

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Post by rostigerpudel »

slaw wrote: post #247
lelanthran wrote: post #238

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm not going to critique this laptop as others have done here. Just over $1K for a laptop with an 8 core Ryzen, 16GB DDR4 and a 1TB SSD isn't outrageous. I agree. My only beef is the keyboard: PLUS: No numpad so trackpad is more less centered (I hate using off-centered trackpads and usually don't care much for the numpad) MINUS: half-sized arrow keys. As a developer I tend to use those for navigation much more tha…

Also power on/off button is among other keyboard keys, on the left to delete.

Yes, but it has a configurable delay to engage, so accidentially hitting the power key instead of DEL will not turn off your computer unless you changed the config and then it's really your own fault.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Post by mindcrime »

usr1106 wrote: post #258
mindcrime wrote: post #212

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I bought a new System 76 machine about this time last year, and splurged (by my standards) on 64GB of RAM. BEST. DECISION. EVAAAR. as far as I'm concerned. For probably the first time in my life, I feel like I can do basically whatever I want and not have to worry about RAM. Have 8 Firefox windows with 200 tabs open, 3 or 4 Eclipse instances, and a few server apps running, and want to launch a bunch of VM's with Vagr…

Who would be able to productively use 200 open browser tabs? Seems like a strange argument to waste even more resources on a more and more ruined planet.

If you don't like hundreds of browser tabs, don't open hundreds of browser tabs. I'll keep my own counsel on how I manage my tabs.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Post by mindcrime »

sph wrote: post #245
mindcrime wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bought a new System 76 machine about this time last year, and splurged (by my standards) on 64GB of RAM. BEST. DECISION. EVAAAR. as far as I'm concerned. For probably the first time in my life, I feel like I can do basically whatever I want and not have to worry about RAM. Have 8 Firefox windows with 200 tabs open, 3 or 4 Eclipse instances, and a few server apps running, and want to launch a bunch of VM's with Vagr…

I'm terrified to think that in a not-so-distant future we'll be complaining about laptops shipping with only 64 GB RAM. I bet it'll still be because of Electron.

I still remember upgrading my first PC from 1 meg of RAM to 4 meg. I thought I was a god, and couldn't imagine what I'd ever do with "all of this memory". Times change...

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Post by FreeFull »

mindcrime wrote: post #212
tristor wrote: post #29

I want to like this, but I feel like 32GB of RAM is minimum if I were buying a new laptop. I’ve been heavily eyeing the Framework but I’d prefer AMD. This had AMD but is limited to 16GB of RAM… lots of unnecessary tradeoffs being made here.

I bought a new System 76 machine about this time last year, and splurged (by my standards) on 64GB of RAM. BEST. DECISION. EVAAAR. as far as I'm concerned. For probably the first time in my life, I feel like I can do basically whatever I want and not have to worry about RAM. Have 8 Firefox windows with 200 tabs open, 3 or 4 Eclipse instances, and a few server apps running, and want to launch a bunch of VM's with Vagr…

As a collolary, RAM that's not being used by programs still gets used by the OS as a filesystem cache, so it still contributes towards the system feeling snappier.

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Post by lrvick »

bscphil wrote: post #186
crossroadsguy wrote: post #138

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Looks like Apple really has the “charge outrageously and be hailed for it” license. If HP also had that license - even a second or a third tier one - they’d have priced it $2989 and make everything not upgradable and announced “Pre-installed Linux for the first time ever in any…… HP laptop” and HN would be filled with comments like “I only have 3GB RAM in my HP laptop and it even lifts my pickup truck. Best ever $3K…

I think this comment is about 3 years out of date. Apple provides plausible value for money now, when it comes to laptops.

Hardly comparable. You can not actually own an Apple laptop. You buy some hardware that can not be used or repaired in any way Apple does not approve of... so it is not really yours.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Post by darthrupert »

usr1106 wrote: post #256
darthrupert wrote: post #248

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Lol, that’s just silly. I could probably run Linux desktop (sway) on a 1GB RAM machine.

1 GB would require some serious optimization if you want to do some work. But I have a 2 GB machine running Xubuntu without modifications and it is quite usable for some development work (It was bought as a school laptop years ago. You could not use it in school anymore because their stuff requires 4 GB nowadays, but I sometimes still use it just for fun.) I don't think switching from Xfce to sway saves you a whole G…

My first Linux machine ran on 8MB RAM. Ok, could be that some modern software would not run well on such a thing any more and a modern web browser is unthinkable.
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