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Post by rendall »

dragonwriter wrote: post #264
renox wrote: post #245

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Discrimination is a fuzzy word.. Is-it discrimination to forbid trans-women to participate in the same sports category as bio-women?

> Discrimination is a fuzzy word.. No, it's not. > Is-it discrimination to forbid trans-women to participate in the same sports category as bio-women? It is absolutely discrimination to discriminate between cisgender and transgender competitors. Whether it is acceptable discrimination is a value question, whether it is legal or permissible discrimination depends on the relevant law and rule framework, but it is unmis…

So, by this use of this word, it is discrimination to prevent (non trans) male athletes from competing in female sports.

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Post by chmod600 »

thomasfedb wrote: post #251
chmod600 wrote: post #232

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"please let us live our lives... not a lot more to it" But there is more to it. There are issues about women's sports, public education, the ethics of irreversible medical procedures on minors without an objective diagnosis, etc. You explicitly avoided the controversy, and it's not really fair to do that.

I do really think that what most trans activists (and most trans people) want is "please let us live our lives". That said, I'm in Australia, and maybe things are really different wherever you are. Of course, "live our lives" includes trans kids being able to live their lives too, being safe at their school, etc. And trans people should be able to play sport if they like, it's a healthy thing to do. As far as social…

"[irreversible medical procedures on kids] it's just not a thing"

Even if not done much today, it's certainly an issue. For instance, see this doc from the US HHS (a federal department):

https://opa.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/2022-03/gender-affir...

"May include medical, surgical... For children and adolescents...crucial to overall health".

Logically, it kind of has to be an issue, right? Current medicine isn't even close to being able to change the sex of an 18 year old. So some people will want to start a lot earlier in a lot more cases. And people will push the boundaries with hormones, which in kids absolutely will cause irreversible changes.

So I stand by my claim that you are unfairly dismissing the controversial aspects of the argument.

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Post by flavius29663 »

antifa wrote: post #275
flavius29663 wrote: post #168

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would you be fine with a movie criticizing child pornography, but ending up doing a little bit of CP (fake, of course, but still CP)? I guess the parent is making a similar comparison. I am not that enraged by this, but I haven't watched the movie. I am very weary of any "think of the kids" outrage, it's usually bullshit...except the LGBTQ indoctrination at a young age, that is real. We ended up having 21% of young p…

> I am very weary of any "think of the kids" outrage, it's usually bullshit...except the LGBTQ indoctrination at a young age, that is real That is probably one of the most obviously not real moral panics you could possibly fall for. > You can't convince me that this is the base rate and up until now 1 in 5 people were LGBTQ but were just afraid of coming out. Why not? They use to not tell anyone because they were afr…

If my math is not wrong, the murder rate for trans people is actually lower than the general population

https://www.hrc.org/resources/fatal-violence-against-the-tra...

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/10/27/what-we-kno...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5227946/

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Post by otde »

jrs235 wrote: post #267
otde wrote: post #187

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I guess I just can’t think of a better way to describe some of the stuff people say about trans people. It’s rooted in a deep hatred that warrants the suffix, IMO. I don’t think “disagreement” adequately describes the severity. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Is it rooted in hatred or fear?

It's pretty complicated! I'd say it's a little bit of a lot of things, and the amounts of those things depends on the person. There's some people who feel like they wish they could have transitioned but didn't, and direct a pretty intense resentment towards people they see as having undeserved happiness (the "rotten egg" theory). Some people believe in a strict natural "order" in the world that they see trans people as subverting in ways they see as disgusting. Some people are scared parents who believe trans people will indoctrinate their children and turn them into unrecognizable, traumatized, uncontrollable shells of their former selves through surgeries and hormone treatments.

Shared amongst all these lines of thinking is an intense belief that the world would be a better place if the idea of being trans (and trans people in general) simply didn't exist, and that to move to that world, we should be detransitioned first, invisible second, and dead otherwise.

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Post by flavius29663 »

monkey_monkey wrote: post #155
flavius29663 wrote: post #153

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I never understood the violence argument. There are 1 million transgender people in the US https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5227946/ There are 44 murders against them in 2021, which apparently was the worse year ever. https://www.hrc.org/resources/fatal-violence-against-the-tra... This is a murder rate of 44/1mil, or 4.4/100k. The general population murder rate is 6.9 in 2021 https://www.foxnews.com/us/us…

> trans people do tend to get into more risky behavior What risky behaviour are you referring to?

from a sister comment

From: https://slate.com/human-interest/2018/02/decriminalizing-pro...

> According to the 2015 U.S. Transgender Survey, 19 percent of all trans people, and 47 percent of black trans women, have engaged in sex work. This does not take place in a vacuum but in the context of pervasive societal discrimination against trans people in general, and trans women of color in particular.

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Post by zionic »

antifa wrote: post #266
zionic wrote: post #150

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> among the NPC class Normally people aren't so open about dehumanizing people they disagree with.

It’s a term that refers to those who blindly follow without thought, not that the person isn’t “human”. It really tends to bother a certain subset of people though, especially ones that fit the description.

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Post by robonerd »

pseudalopex wrote: post #241
steve_taylor wrote: post #122

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Phobic has more than 1 meaning. Photophobia and hydrophobia aren't mental illnesses.

Mental illness probably isn't the right word for it, but hydrophobia is indisputably a disease of the brain. The virus travels from the bite wound up your CNS; when it reaches your brain you die in agony.

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Post by zionic »

ok_dad wrote: post #240
zionic wrote: post #206

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Have you watched 4k surgery videos of other surgeries? Do they make you repulsed as well? You seem to have some deep seated issues with being disgusted with something that isn’t any of your business. Why should you care how horrible it looks to surgically change sexes? Isn’t that between the individual and their surgical doctors? I’m pretty disgusted by you right now and I don’t even need to see 4k video of you.

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Post by mpalmer »

fsociety wrote: post #280
mpalmer wrote: post #227

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So...assume the most extreme views are correct and start forming our own personal thoughts based on this assumption. Just in case they do turn out to be correct. I'm just not buying that. Side note: I have yet to see a satisfying definition for this sense of the word "erasing". As best I can tell, it's just an emphatic way of saying "disagreeing with a position of personal importance to X".

If you want to see the TERF mindset, and I recognize that the word is thrown around too easily, check out Lily Cade’s speech against trans people. It does advocate for violence. There are also very real statistics and accounts of violence against trans people. The numbers are shy in comparison to COVID deaths, but you have to account for the number of people who do transition and do not hide it. Is this priority #1 i…

That is indeed an abhorrent speech, and it includes an unambiguous, direct call to violence.

There are indeed very real statistics of violence against trans people. Also abhorrent and inhuman.

In what way would you say we are failing to show humanity to trans people that we _are_ showing to other groups of people whose identities cause them to be the subject of humor as well as the victim of deadly hate crimes?

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