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Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

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daniel-cussen wrote: post #20
sysadm1n wrote: post #11

Well not that I live in a bad neighborhood or anything like that, but you really don't know what could happen at any given moment, and need to phone emergency services. This is not paranoia (well maybe it is), but paranoia doesn't work retroactively, you have to be proactively paranoid. If you're concerned about privacy buy one of those cheap Nokia dumbphones that old people use. Keep your smartphone at home, and swa…

There's places where a phone won't help you at all. On the other hand, just screaming will. Screaming, like not yelling, screaming. Helped me out exactly three weeks ago today, when I was getting coercively shepherded by supermarket guards, into the supermarket, because the cashier accused me of not paying. But they weren't interested in seeing my receipt. Just in harassing me. Fortunately Jessica at the Farmacias Ma…

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

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daniel-cussen wrote: post #20
sysadm1n wrote: post #11

Well not that I live in a bad neighborhood or anything like that, but you really don't know what could happen at any given moment, and need to phone emergency services. This is not paranoia (well maybe it is), but paranoia doesn't work retroactively, you have to be proactively paranoid. If you're concerned about privacy buy one of those cheap Nokia dumbphones that old people use. Keep your smartphone at home, and swa…

There's places where a phone won't help you at all. On the other hand, just screaming will. Screaming, like not yelling, screaming. Helped me out exactly three weeks ago today, when I was getting coercively shepherded by supermarket guards, into the supermarket, because the cashier accused me of not paying. But they weren't interested in seeing my receipt. Just in harassing me. Fortunately Jessica at the Farmacias Ma…

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

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Post by helmholtz »

pessimizer wrote: post #280
dale_glass wrote: post #155

Personally I find modern technology to be very liberating. When I was a child, even going around my own city was a stressful thing. What if I get lost? What if I run out of money for the train? How do I know I got the bus in the right direction? (the darn things didn't announce stops at all). The first times I traveled involved printing a stack of papers including names, addresses, and maps. Getting to a hotel in a c…

This must be like when in threads about Uber, people describe taxis as a traumatizing hellscape. When I was a child, I figured out how my city was shaped, and figured out how to get around. Knowing how to get around one's own city is a skill worth learning, and is less of a time investment than fishing around for a phone to spend minutes futzing around with for the rest of your life. > The first times I traveled invo…

There are some of us who will never learn 'how to get around' one's city. We lack a head for sense of direction, for memorising landmarks etc. We can try all our life, and we'll only cope, but never be comfy.

Of course, if I'm just going to commute to the office and come back, I could do it blindfolded, and those days it's easy to be without the phone. It's exactly when you're doing something unusual that the phone is so handy.

Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

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daniel-cussen wrote: post #245
cercatrova wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes but I disagree that they'd have broken the bottles had they put down a bag. I've had bottles in bags and not once did I break them by setting them down. They could've easily put the bottles down and called the police on their phone, if they brought it with them.

Great to see you again, cercatrova![1] I didn't have a bag, that's what started it all. You don't get bags anymore in Chile[2]. The cashier, CE. NEWEN according to the receipt, accused me of not paying apparently in retaliation for my saying the plastic bag she offered was not worth the 57 cents the Walmart subsidiary charged for it (490 Chilean pesos)[1]. I decided to go without. Until her accusation that I didn't p…

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

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Post by manicdee »

pessimizer wrote: post #280
dale_glass wrote: post #155

Personally I find modern technology to be very liberating. When I was a child, even going around my own city was a stressful thing. What if I get lost? What if I run out of money for the train? How do I know I got the bus in the right direction? (the darn things didn't announce stops at all). The first times I traveled involved printing a stack of papers including names, addresses, and maps. Getting to a hotel in a c…

This must be like when in threads about Uber, people describe taxis as a traumatizing hellscape. When I was a child, I figured out how my city was shaped, and figured out how to get around. Knowing how to get around one's own city is a skill worth learning, and is less of a time investment than fishing around for a phone to spend minutes futzing around with for the rest of your life. > The first times I traveled invo…

Just because you don’t have the problem doesn’t mean you should trivialise someone else’s experience. How rude.

Try listening more, and hold back from telling people how to solve problems they didn’t ask for help solving.

Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

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Post by seattle_spring »

varjag wrote: post #152
id wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know, medical emergencies are a thing. You could always come across someone that needs help.

Freak attacks are a thing too. Dumb to go out without concealed gun.

That's about as relevant as claiming you should carry rattlesnake antivenom because you might come across someone recently bit.

Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

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Post by blindmute »

daniel-cussen wrote: post #20
sysadm1n wrote: post #11

Well not that I live in a bad neighborhood or anything like that, but you really don't know what could happen at any given moment, and need to phone emergency services. This is not paranoia (well maybe it is), but paranoia doesn't work retroactively, you have to be proactively paranoid. If you're concerned about privacy buy one of those cheap Nokia dumbphones that old people use. Keep your smartphone at home, and swa…

There's places where a phone won't help you at all. On the other hand, just screaming will. Screaming, like not yelling, screaming. Helped me out exactly three weeks ago today, when I was getting coercively shepherded by supermarket guards, into the supermarket, because the cashier accused me of not paying. But they weren't interested in seeing my receipt. Just in harassing me. Fortunately Jessica at the Farmacias Ma…

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

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Post by scandox »

dale_glass wrote: post #155

Personally I find modern technology to be very liberating. When I was a child, even going around my own city was a stressful thing. What if I get lost? What if I run out of money for the train? How do I know I got the bus in the right direction? (the darn things didn't announce stops at all). The first times I traveled involved printing a stack of papers including names, addresses, and maps. Getting to a hotel in a c…

I traveled (as did many at the time) quite extensively in countries around the world with minimal planning and/or knowledge and no phone and it was absolutely fine.

Secure personal storage of documents and cash is the only must. Politeness and respect for local people was also very helpful.

The big upside is that you have genuinely unexpected experiences.

Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

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Post by pizza »

cassianoleal wrote: post #230
pizza wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ironic. search engine optimization, rather than minimizing the entropy of search, maximized it..

It's not like the people at Google didn't know about Goodhart's Law. Somehow I don't think SEO was ever meant to improve search results.

Honestly I’m just surprised it’s so profitable to be so spammy that this stuff is persisting. That said, when I see shit results, I hardly ever bother to click on the second page any longer. Perhaps the seo spam taking up the near-but-not-top results are the biggest schmucks of all, since they are probably putting in at least a little money/effort to get there, I would imagine?
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