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Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by colechristensen »

elicash wrote: post #216
colechristensen wrote: post #157

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Does it matter? Was there any consequence of filling out a form then doing something different? I have heard it several times already today, but so what a form was filled out wrong, is there any consequence to that that anybody would care about? (I doubt anybody complaining about it actually knows anything about how important it is, it’s just being latched on to because it’s a way to match events with preexisting opi…

Yes. He is currently in court claiming SEC is picking on him on another matter and this (and the fact that the filing was late) is likely going to hurt his case with the judge. And while I don't like speculating, since you're asking me to do so I'll add that it's entirely possible that any misrepresentations here get pursued on its own merits, as well.

"He broke the rules!" ok, sure.

But why is that form there and what is the consequence of filing one way or the other? I mean besides being punished for doing it wrong, why does that rule exist and what are the effects of filling it out one way or the other?

Why is this anything more than an administrative mistake? Did he get some benefit from filing the form that way?

... or, what it seems, is this just a "gotcha!" for people to complain about on the Internet.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by sillysaurusx »

beepbooptheory wrote: post #191
jimnotgym wrote: post #160

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I may be seen as a villain to Ayn Rand disciples, mainly because I may point out I have seen people do amazing things without becoming billionaires at consumers expense.

The everyday work of the normal laborer is more worthy of admiration and support than anything that happens in a board room, on the golf course, or in whatever internal email chain that decides these things. It's not amazing to be an investor and make big decisions that shape lives and the flow of money, that is simply what you can do when you are in that position. The worker who can live within the turmoil the forme…

Unless they refuse to get vaccinated.

It may seem like an off-topic point, but I recently had a big wake-up call with the kinds of people you mention. The flip side of your flowery description is that they're often short-sighted, vicious people who can get worked up into a frenzy with little warning, or reason. Sometimes they want to for no reason.

You're trying to describe the nobility of people with no skills (valued by society). But imagine if the entire world were populated by them. Would you really want to live in it?

And if not, can they be called heroes of humanity?

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by slibhb »

jfk13 wrote: post #267
slibhb wrote: post #150

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Elon Musk is kind of obnoxious. He lies (or "exaggerates"). But what Tesla has done is insane. It's happened so quickly, and that's leaving aside the rockets. The hard evidence that we can build new things, that we can progress and build a future that's better than the present is so important. If it takes a flawed man to show us that, I'll take it. If you hate Elon Musk, consider probing your mind deeply to figure ou…

> Elon Musk is kind of obnoxious. He lies (or "exaggerates"). But what Tesla has done is insane. It's happened so quickly, and that's leaving aside the rockets. The hard evidence that we can build new things, that we can progress and build a future that's better than the present is so important. If it takes a flawed man to show us that, I'll take it. Or in other words, the end justifies the means? Not all of us share…

Nowhere in my post did I make that argument. If Elon used slave labor to run his factories, I wouldn't defend it. However, "being a troll, exaggerating, and sometimes lying" are not mortal sins.

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Post by mostertoaster »

nathanvanfleet wrote: post #187
mostertoaster wrote: post #161

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I dont know about electric cars, but what Elon did with space x is simply incredible. Commercial space flights were becoming rarer and rarer out of the US, and now it is the most common. The price of space flight while still high, was reduced by a huge percentage. I’m sure he told many lies to get there. But economics and physics don’t really lie. I like him for the reasons I like Kanye, Bernie Sanders, and Trump (th…

You must own NFTs it sounds like you really buy into hype. People just say they are Jesus Christ come to earth and you just go "Well yeah okay that's amazing"

What are NFTs? One of those blockchain proof of ownership things right, but like for gifs? What’s weird is I can imagine a dystopian future where NFTs are valuable. I hope not though. But post COVID the world seems ridiculous to me so who knows.

“Hands on” on the Jesus is King album is one of my favorites, and I do think he might have a messiah complex, but he isn’t saying follow me, but follow God.

Kanye is not a role model to imitate. But he does seem to play a large role in the cosmos (or think the story that will be told centuries from now). Like Elon I’d say.

I can appreciate Trump, and I can appreciate Bernie. I appreciate Kanye’s art and often his blunt words. My vote for him was purely symbolic. He wasn’t even on the ballot in my state.

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Post by the_only_law »

slibhb wrote: post #150
justapassenger wrote: post #42

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Misleading investors is one of Elon’s main jobs. And he’ll continue doing so, as we doesn’t face any consequences for it (expect for becoming ultra rich).

Elon Musk is kind of obnoxious. He lies (or "exaggerates"). But what Tesla has done is insane. It's happened so quickly, and that's leaving aside the rockets. The hard evidence that we can build new things, that we can progress and build a future that's better than the present is so important. If it takes a flawed man to show us that, I'll take it. If you hate Elon Musk, consider probing your mind deeply to figure ou…

> It may just be that you're an Ayn Rand villain.

Something, something terrorists and freedom fighters.

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Post by skulk »

ralusek wrote: post #179
rhacker wrote: post #90

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I don't know. They haven't finished the homeless count for 2022. I suspect they are scared to announce it. People are probably dropping off from housed to unhoused at unprecidented levels. I wouldn't say our lives are way to good right now.

Very, very few homeless people are homeless because they simply can't afford housing.

To see why you're wrong, all you have to do is look up a survey:

From Maricopa county (Phoenix): https://www.abc15.com/news/local-news/investigations/why-is-...

That's 2,239 people (16 percent of all surveyed shelter-visitors) that cited "economic reasons" as the cause of their homelessness, and there's a separate entry for unemployment.

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Post by rowanG077 »

jfk13 wrote: post #267
slibhb wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elon Musk is kind of obnoxious. He lies (or "exaggerates"). But what Tesla has done is insane. It's happened so quickly, and that's leaving aside the rockets. The hard evidence that we can build new things, that we can progress and build a future that's better than the present is so important. If it takes a flawed man to show us that, I'll take it. If you hate Elon Musk, consider probing your mind deeply to figure ou…

> Elon Musk is kind of obnoxious. He lies (or "exaggerates"). But what Tesla has done is insane. It's happened so quickly, and that's leaving aside the rockets. The hard evidence that we can build new things, that we can progress and build a future that's better than the present is so important. If it takes a flawed man to show us that, I'll take it. Or in other words, the end justifies the means? Not all of us share…

Some ends justify some means. He lies to some investors. Not good. Because of the this the chance we get into serious trouble due to climate change is significantly reduced. We also gain the technology to go to Mars economically. So Yeah I would say this end justifies lying to some investors.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by ajhurliman »

justapassenger wrote: post #37
jmkni wrote: post #5

I think Twitter's CEO summed it up well, and I agree: > He’s both a passionate believer and intense critic of the service which is exactly what we need on @Twitter, and in the boardroom, to make us stronger in the long-term. Welcome Elon! https://twitter.com/paraga/status/1511320964813910017

That sounds like a typical corporate butt kissing.

The CEO's level of sincerity doesn't rob the statement of any meaning.
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