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Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#283

Such a terrible idea compared to permanent standard time. There is plenty of light during the summer, so there's no need to optimize for that. The winter is when daylight is scarce, so that's what should be optimized for.

People who live on the eastern extreme of a timezone likely feel quite different than those who live on the western extreme. Boston, MA and Marquette, MI are in the same time zone. Boston's sunset today is 6:51 PM. Marquette's sunset today is 7:55 PM. It's no surprise that residents of each of those cities would have a different view as to "what should we do about DST?"

for that, time zone boundaries should be straight lines rather than following arbitrary political whims. then you’d only have a half hour variance at most.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#284
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I know this is hardly a radical take, but I don't care what time it is. I can adjust my schedule appropriately. What I hate is changing the time. It makes us all sicker, causes accidents, and workers in certain professions have to work weird hours to keep up with the changes. It's such a drag on the economy and only seems to serve a small fragment of society.

> drag on the economy

Do we know if this is true?

Does the proposal have an estimate of the financial impact?

What are we talking about here, $10M? $100B? I have no sense for it.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#285

>Sunshine Protection Act Jesus, does everything need to be hyperbolic virtue signaling. Won't someone please think of the children!

It's extra funny in this case, because the main point of those opposing this bill seems to be "Won't someone think of the children? They'll have to walk to school in the dark!"

Schools here frequently have a delayed start on winter days because of black ice on the roads. Permanent DST will only make that happen more frequently. Perhaps this will cause the school system to look into a schedule adjustment during the winter months that accounts for the reality that black ice is a problem here during those months instead of acting like it's an unexpected situation that couldn't be foreseen each time it happens.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#286

More info here: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-approves-bill-tha... Important note: "Senator Marco Rubio said after input from airlines and broadcasters that supporters agreed that the change would not take place until November 2023."

You could really think of it starting in March 2023.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#287

Such a terrible idea compared to permanent standard time. There is plenty of light during the summer, so there's no need to optimize for that. The winter is when daylight is scarce, so that's what should be optimized for.

Oh my, such a hard disagreement! In my time zone (Eastern), DST means sunset is at its earliest around 5:30PM, compared to 4:30PM in the hell that is Standard Time. I would so rather have a sliver of daylight at the end of my day!

Sunrise at its latest would still be reasonable, around 8:00am, with plenty of predawn lights for kids and early risers.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#288

As long as they eliminate the constant inane switching back and forth. Sleep disruption is harmful in many ways and all this practice seems to actually do, old wives' tales about farmers and circumstantial localized benefits aside, is induce it. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5449130/

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Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#289

This is excellent. With the rise of air conditioning, daylight savings has considerably less electricity savings than it used to. It will also make timekeeping more consistent. I have lived in Arizona for the past few years and it is pleasant to know that you will always be at UTC-7:00.

Arizona only goes by Mountain Standard time (UTC -7:00). If Daylight savings time becomes permanent will Arizona always be an hour off from the rest of Mountain time zone?
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