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Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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> I stare at the page for a second. My brain hurts. I hate it. It felt... distracting, maximal, cluttered, weirdly transparent. Little sparkles animate over the page. > "How old are you?" I asked. > "Twenty-five." > "Of course you are." You will never, ever, ever do good design while holding your audience in contempt. They are fully and completely entitled to their aesthetic preferences and those preferences have abs…

I’d argue you should always design for yourself and build products you want. When your needs aren’t in alignment with your user’s needs then you’re the wrong person for the job anyway. User feedback is important for getting additional insights, but the implementation of the feedback should always feel correct to you too.

I like your sentiment, but I think this only works at the start. After the initial MVC phase, you discover additional potential target audiences, and often (but not always) it makes more sense to apply empathy and adapt the software to also benefit their needs, rather than just abandoning then as "not the intended audience".

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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Welcome to what millennials have experienced for a couple decades: Older generations who think they know exactly what the younger generations want based on little more than a stereotype or maybe the feedback from one young person they spoke to once.

Millennials are spoiled by the attention. The Committee for Generational Distinctions is still trying to erase the existence of GenXers. But it all gets better in your 40s. That's when you and your peers start to have enough power and money to be catered to. And when the 20-somethings start bitching about you. > Older generations who think they know exactly what the younger generations This is frequently called 'soci…

No way, man. We're gonna keep rocking forever!

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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Millennial here, I welcome anything to break up the current design aesthetics. I never liked material design and designs from Apple and Google both look tired. I did dark modes before it was cool, but now that I'm getting older, I want some kind of grey mode. Something that doesn't feel like I'm looking down the barrel of a flashlight nor something that's gonna cause eyestrain. As for all the flashy doodads and movem…

Why does dark mode cause eye strain?

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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The formatting in italics makes this seem like a quote, but I can't find a source. Is this a quote from a larger work?

Well, I imagine it to be a larger work. But it just came to me now as a sentence / fragment of a larger one. I haven't written it yet...should I do this?

You have a good way with words so I'd absolutely read it.

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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At age 50 now, I'd prefer a Gen X mode where the font size is 125% and the text is high contrast.

Yeah, I wonder if these trends the author is picking up on (i.e. "Millennial Boring on Purpose" and "Millennial Minimalism" vs the Gen-Z "Excitement" and sparkles) is more of an actual age thing vs. a generational thing ? I'm still in my 30s, and I prefer the Millennial Minimalism now, but I didn't always. And I find myself bumping up the font size to 125% once in a while - and I expect to be doing it more and more a…

Same, and I agree fully. I saw the websites that came out when flash/shockwave was new and they were DECKED OUT and that sh*t went sour way too fast. I went from crazy designs to "millennial minimalist" as soon as I turned 30+.

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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As a product manager, I read this and found a founder clinically dismissive of user perspectives and feedback that doesn't align with their own internal viewpoints. Confirmation bias to the n-th degree. His quote of her feedback ("It's so exciting. Every time I open it, it makes me happy. Sometimes they have doge pop up!") is almost certainly embellished and is a non-empathetic take on a genuine user perspective. The…

> And gosh, the names are horrifically cringey. "Sappho Dating", "Matzoball Dating", "Subtle Curry Dating"?

"Sappho"/"sapphic" are fairly common self-descriptors among teens/twentysomethings on a few subcultural niches like Tumblr. Ironically your own comment is an example of the tendency you decry; you're clearly not familiar with the markets at play here.

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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As a product manager, I read this and found a founder clinically dismissive of user perspectives and feedback that doesn't align with their own internal viewpoints. Confirmation bias to the n-th degree. His quote of her feedback ("It's so exciting. Every time I open it, it makes me happy. Sometimes they have doge pop up!") is almost certainly embellished and is a non-empathetic take on a genuine user perspective. The…

"Subtle Curry Dating" is a reference to the Facebook group "subtle curry traits", which itself may be an offshoot of the "subtle asian traits" group (I forget which came first). These are both examples of Facebook groups aimed at a large but unconnected group of people from similar backgrounds. I think they can be fundamentally considered to be "subreddits, but on Facebook". Imagine /r/BlackPeopleTwitter but for (Sou…

If you do something for an audience it is fine to alienate everyone else. It might even be required to avoid "one size fits all" Or moving away from the topic to attract a larger audience.

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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At first glance, "maximal" is not the conclusion I would have come to. The author using this term implies the opposite of minimal. While yes, there is more graphic "noise" I suppose, the UI itself still looks minimal to me. I can tell very easily what this page does and how to submit a new party. Minimalist design preferences were always about this. Don't make the user think in order to accomplish their mission. And this doesn't make me think. It's the antithesis of "put a thousand options in one window and then expect the user to watch a vhs training video before using it".

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Subtle Curry Dating" is a reference to the Facebook group "subtle curry traits", which itself may be an offshoot of the "subtle asian traits" group (I forget which came first). These are both examples of Facebook groups aimed at a large but unconnected group of people from similar backgrounds. I think they can be fundamentally considered to be "subreddits, but on Facebook". Imagine /r/BlackPeopleTwitter but for (Sou…

If you do something for an audience it is fine to alienate everyone else. It might even be required to avoid "one size fits all" Or moving away from the topic to attract a larger audience.

Exactly--"Kosher masala pussy" needs to be right exactly once.

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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As a product manager, I read this and found a founder clinically dismissive of user perspectives and feedback that doesn't align with their own internal viewpoints. Confirmation bias to the n-th degree. His quote of her feedback ("It's so exciting. Every time I open it, it makes me happy. Sometimes they have doge pop up!") is almost certainly embellished and is a non-empathetic take on a genuine user perspective. The…

I thought the exact opposite. The narrator thinks the gen-z site is ugly, busy, whatever, and then realised that's what a segment of the market wants. You left out the "and then" part of the story.
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