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Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes
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#282I grew up around evangelical Christians. The negative reaction to Rogan *feels* exactly like the clucking and tutting about 'dangerous ideas' that I've heard from the more cellophane elements of that crew.
Yeah, it feels like theres a new kind of conservativism being born in the last couple years.
It's not conservative. It's puritanical, however. Political tribalism has filled the void left by the diminishment of religious tribalism.
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#283One of the ironic things here is that it’s pitted Spotify’s brand as a music company against their brand as a podcast company. For people originally drawn to Spotify as a music service the departure of even a few icons all of a sudden makes Apple Music very attractive.
I was already primed to leave Spotify because of that very tension. I never had any desire to play music and podcasts in the same app: I swap between them pretty fluidly and the separate apps keep everything in context.
So the second that the podcast side started to interfere with the music side in the slightest, I dipped.
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#284> #232 Giorgio Tsoukalos Removed on February 4th, 2022 The Ancient Aliens guy? They sure are casting a wide net. I mean, it's one thing to try to clamp down on medical misinformation during a pandemic, but it's an entirely different thing to clamp on harmless wackiness.
Wow, yeah there's got to be something else that's causing these to be pulled down. Like maybe one of the advertisers in the episode isn't aligned with or allowed by Spotify. Or maybe Joe played a small clip of music that Youtube didn't catch but Spotify did and doesn't have the rights to play. I remember in a lot of those earlier episode Joe would play a lot of videos and random things sometimes with music.
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#286Predictably, people break out the C-word. Every business decides what they sell and what they don't. Do they also complain about censorship and shout at the manager of a shoe store for not selling books? Spotify decided they don't want to sell those episodes of JR. That's not censorship, it's business, and it's very different than if it's done by the government.
The White House verbally stated they wanted Spotify to take action.
When a government tells a company to act, there is always an implicit "or else". That is defacto censorship.
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#287When JRE went to Spotify many people were hailing it as an anti-cancellation move. They clearly misunderstood.. the podcast was decentralized (even if your podcast host shuts you down you can serve the rss and mp3s from somewhere else). And Youtube was another avenue of distribution. Centralization makes you more vulnerable to getting particular content vetoed.
It is “anti cancelation” [sic]: Rogan is no longer the one facing the results of his speech, Spotify is.
That’s basically what so-called canceling is about: asking people to own for their speech.
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#288I’m struggling to have sympathy with anyone involved in this. Podcasting has always felt like a resurgence of the “original web” spirit to me: anyone can upload, anywhere. All you need is an RSS feed and anyone can subscribe. Then Spotify came busting in and decided that the open podcasting platform is obsolete and paid Joe Rogan $100 million for exclusive distribution of his content. So they’ve dug their own grave h…
I know it's a lost battle because anyone whose not a nerd will never care, but I wish we could all just call content that moves to a centralised platform like Spotify an internet talkshow or whatever and leave the word podcast to the people distributing MP3s via RSS.
Is it a lost battle? http://newpodcastingapps.com/
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#289Earlier quoted context omitted.
When I heard of JRE many years ago, I said to myself, "do I care to hear the endless opinions of the former host of Fear Factor? Nope." And that was that, never even decided to give it a try with so much other potential content available.
Pretty reductionist. He made himself a success in more than one industry. And you haven’t listened to him. So what qualifies your opinion of him more than his opinion about anything?
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