Amazon Pip Horror Story

Post by Jolter » Fri, Feb 04, 2022, 12:28 PM UTC

tibbetts wrote: post #269

Jolter wrote: post #259

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Where do you live that 700€ a DAY is low pay? It’s, that’s MORE than 700$ a day, not less. Consider that most parts of the world have lower cost of living than the Bay Area.

I prefer to be paid based on how valuable my work is to the employer, not the cost of living wherever I happen to be or even my personal financial needs.

Post by Nextgrid » Fri, Feb 04, 2022, 12:29 PM UTC

adomanico wrote: post #54

As much as I feel sorry for this person and their experience, it seems to me this wasn't the best way to handle this situation. It would have been more pragmatic to fire up leetcode, take a few interviews, and leave the job professionally. This probably would have come with a small pay bump, even with this persons limited professional experience. Maybe I'm just lucky and I've never had a bad experience like this, but…

Post by gitfan86 » Fri, Feb 04, 2022, 12:32 PM UTC

vletal wrote: post #207

Jasp3r wrote: post #134

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His job history agrees with you. It has been less than 2 years since he graduated, in which he has held 4 jobs. 3 months at his first job, then 4 months, 5 months and 10 months at Amazon. I would not take his given statement at face value.

This is a relevant insight, I do not understand why it got downvoted. Even though Amazon has a history of such events, we should care about the bigger picture, yet be skeptical about the individual claims anyway!

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Feb 04, 2022, 12:33 PM UTC

dec0dedab0de wrote: post #66

goldenkey wrote: post #49

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HR at Amazon is a shit show. I had $100 of pizza stolen from the fridge at Amazon and I mentioned it casually to HR, as something notable but not too important. And HR then decided to tell my manager without my knowledge. The manager then berated me over communicating about a "trivial matter." So yeah, wouldn't put much stock in HR at Amazon.

I know it's not the point, but how/why did you have $100 worth of pizza in the refrigerator? Edit: I'm trying to imagine scenarios where that could happen, I have two so far. You ordered pizza for a meeting that got canceled, and the office refrigerator was huge. Or you ordered from a fancy pizza place that had waygu or something as a topping. I'm sorry, I don't know why this is bothering me so much.

Post by pdkl95 » Fri, Feb 04, 2022, 12:34 PM UTC

thinkharderdev wrote: post #216

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #177

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I mean the project management triangle comes into play then, and when it comes to SWE, throwing more money at a problem usually doesn't make it go faster. Basically the higher-ups have to decide what is most important; if the deadline is fixed, then the scope HAS TO BE flexible.

There's a basic communication problem IME. When I've been in this position (an impossible deadline) it's been because some Sr VP or C-suite type decides that something HAS to be done by a certain date. Like, they want to unveil a new product/feature at CES or some other trade conference so the date is fixed. So this filters down through 3-4 layers of management to you, the dev lead who actually has to build the thing…

  In the beginning, there was a plan, 
  And then came the assumptions,
  And the assumptions were without form, 
  And the plan without substance,

  And the darkness was upon the face of the workers,
  And they spoke among themselves saying,
  "It is a crock of shit and it stinks."

  And the workers went unto their Supervisors and said,
  "It is a pile of dung, and we cannot live with the smell."

  And the Supervisors went unto their Managers saying,
  "It is a container of excrement, and it is very strong, 
  Such that none may abide by it."

  And the Managers went unto their Directors saying,
  "It is a vessel of fertilizer, and none may abide by its strength."

  And the Directors spoke among themselves saying to one another,
  "It contains that which aids plants growth, and it is very strong."

  And the Directors went to the Vice Presidents saying unto them,
  "It promotes growth, and it is very powerful."

  And the Vice Presidents went to the President, saying unto him,
  "This new plan will actively promote the growth and vigor 
  Of the company With very powerful effects."

  And the President looked upon the Plan 
  And saw that it was good,
  And the Plan became Policy.

  And this, my friend, is how shit happens.