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Swedes were fooled by one of the biggest scientific bluffs of our time (2020)

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Re: Swedes were fooled by one of the biggest scientific bluffs of our time (2020)

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As a swede. This is the first time I've seen this 4 colour system. I'm 30, so maybe it's more popular around younger people? I have seen things like "INTP-J" on friends profile. I think it's called 16 personalities. Me and my colleagues did that test, and the suggested one for me did not fit in with me at all, and most of us thought the results were bullshit. Why anyone would follow this to make work groups, or to ex…

It was popular for the younger adult crowd and women. If your a middle-aged IT male person, you probably miss a lot of popular trends.

Missing fads is a feature, not a bug.

Re: Swedes were fooled by one of the biggest scientific bluffs of our time (2020)

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One thing we do know from the longest running human studies in history, is that, over a lifetime, people's personalities change so much that in their old age they are oftentimes nothing like what they were when they were younger.

Of course, hormone levels change, and they influence behavior in a scientifically proven way.

Re: Swedes were fooled by one of the biggest scientific bluffs of our time (2020)

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I'm not a psychologist but this sentence: """Modern evidence-based methods in behavioural science adopt the ground principle that people’s behavior mainly depend on context.""" doesn't have any source to back it up and is opposed to what I have read about the introvert/extrovert divide which seems to be more genetic than context dependent for example. And those are character traits that directly shape behavior (I'd r…

A main pilar of behavioral psychology is that the previously learnt behavior is activated in a certain context, the antecedent. The presence (or absence) of consequences following the behavior affects the probability of such a behavior occurring again a smiliar context. This operant conditioning has been shown extensively in behavioristic research by Skinner and beyond. Genes can be thought of as learnt behavior in a…

Thank you, that is a good explanation. Genes as learnt behavior also makes sense the way you described it.

Re: Swedes were fooled by one of the biggest scientific bluffs of our time (2020)

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IMO the biggest issue with MBTI types is the lack of "unaligned" letters. Someone at 51% of the way between "P" and "J" probably doesn't meaningfully express their "J", but would still get "INTJ" the same as if they had scored 100% of the way to "J". Adding an "X" to the middle of each scale would probably help differentiate between people genuinely expressing one end or the other of the scale, and the middle who don…

IMO the biggest issue with MBTI types is reducing personality traits to exactly 4 dimensions. Why not 3 or 5? It's completely arbitrary.

That actually doesn't bother me at all. Any test attempting to group people into a finite number of categories will necessarily look need to limit the analysis to a finite number of dimensions. The more dimensions you look at the more groupings you'll end up with. Add those together and a consequence is you want to have fewer dimensions if possible, but not so few that the groupings are overly broad. Maybe 3 or 5 would have been better, but it's clear that thought went into the decision, and that it was obviously not an arbitrary decision.

Re: Swedes were fooled by one of the biggest scientific bluffs of our time (2020)

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"She used classifications for personal shorthand on how she thinks about people." I do not know how your friend did it exactly, but my main experience with people who are into astrology is different - they get told by the astrological models/dogma on how to think of people and combination of people. "I cannot be with this person, he is a lion and I am [whatever]" "Why are you together, your signs do not match each ot…

Oh I agree, that's been vast majority of my experience too. That's why I was surprised when I paid attention and realized my friend would meet somebody and observe and classify them as a "taurus with a bit of gemini" (or whatever) regardless if what their actual birth sign is. It transformed it into a observational classification system! To her, calling somebody Capricorn is like somebody else observing "this person…

So what you're saying is basically that astrology kind of works, but it works best if you don't know exactly when (and where) people are born... Heh.

Re: Swedes were fooled by one of the biggest scientific bluffs of our time (2020)

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If the wisdom of the classics stopped being applicable to modern times then they would die out and stop being read. So, only the observations remain that are most stable, general, and enduring over time.

The power of the classic is largely in being pliable enough to be read in new ways by successive generations, if taken litteraly Plato obviously has nothing to say about downvote etiquette.

He doesn't make even a single throwaway comment on the process of throwing black or white potsherds into an urn to decide whether someone shall be banned from the city of Athens, i.e. the original meaning of ostracism? Because AFAICS that would be pretty literally (actual literally-literally) about downvote etiquette.

Re: Swedes were fooled by one of the biggest scientific bluffs of our time (2020)

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Two observations:

1) From the headline alone, I guessed this would be about the Macchiarini scandal at Karolinska.

2) I think this is the same guy who also wrote Omgiven av idioter ["Surrounded by Idiots"] (? though I could be misremembering). Which would be ironic, since he seems to be among the bigger ones himself.

Re: Swedes were fooled by one of the biggest scientific bluffs of our time (2020)

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He is a fraud because the alleged scientific evidence does not exist.

Simply being wrong or misinformed isn't fraud in and of itself though. One could be incompetent, for instance.

Publishing non-scientific bullshit as science-based is fraud even if the actual contents are based on incompetence. Sure, that makes editors and publishers complicit in the fraud, but in the end: If you let something be published in your name, you get to stand behind it.

Re: Swedes were fooled by one of the biggest scientific bluffs of our time (2020)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The power of the classic is largely in being pliable enough to be read in new ways by successive generations, if taken litteraly Plato obviously has nothing to say about downvote etiquette.

He doesn't make even a single throwaway comment on the process of throwing black or white potsherds into an urn to decide whether someone shall be banned from the city of Athens, i.e. the original meaning of ostracism? Because AFAICS that would be pretty literally (actual literally-literally) about downvote etiquette.

No, that is very much not actually literally-literally.
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