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Re: CT scans of AirPods evolution

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Post by gimmeThaBeet » Tue, Dec 07, 2021, 2:06 PM UTC

mensetmanusman wrote: post #273

hnlmorg wrote: post #255

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And yes, I know people have plenty of complaints about apple, but I never had encountered such an obvious problem with an Apple product. Have they not stress-tested this stuff? I'm not going to argue that many of Apples products aren't well built but MBPs have had their share of problems too. Such as - The butterfly keys being extremely easy to break? (I have a few keys on mine that don't work properly any more) -…

Try cleaning the speaker with distilled water and the speaker cleaning feature that pumps the water out of the watch.

is that this water lock thing for when you swim with it?

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210931

May be brash of me, I would assume all water resistant watches have water lock, but the speaker thing sounds so apple-y.

Re: CT scans of AirPods evolution

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Post by MaKey » Tue, Dec 07, 2021, 2:24 PM UTC

hk__2 wrote: post #214

emmanueloga_ wrote: post #172

I imagine it may be hard and they don't have incentives to "fix it", but I think the single most important disadvantage of airpods is the battery life... no matter how long it lasts, there's no way to replace it, so they became essentially discardable items. [1]? 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence

This has nothing to do with some evil planned obsolescence, it’s just that you can’t make a device that small while retaining (easy) battery replacement capability. https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/blog/your-wireless-earbud...

Turns out you can: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Galaxy+Buds+Live+Tea...

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Post by nvarsj » Tue, Dec 07, 2021, 2:33 PM UTC

elzbardico wrote: post #100

This is still the strongest apple advantage: design, engineering and build quality. Recently I wanted to buy a second notebook so I could leave my MBPro at home in trips where I didn't want to work, but still had a machine that run linux and windows for some quick idea or even some light gaming. Decided for a Samsung Galaxy Book Pro. Expensive machine, but slightly cheaper than a MacBook Air. good i7 11gen processor,…

Samsung has never had great build quality in my experience - they seem to focus on looks above all else, with throwaway hardware that never gets software updates. I wonder why you went for a galaxy book pro? Why not buy a Thinkpad or Dell? They can have their own issues but the build quality should be much better.

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Post by jinto36 » Tue, Dec 07, 2021, 2:34 PM UTC

hnlmorg wrote: post #255

elzbardico wrote: post #100

This is still the strongest apple advantage: design, engineering and build quality. Recently I wanted to buy a second notebook so I could leave my MBPro at home in trips where I didn't want to work, but still had a machine that run linux and windows for some quick idea or even some light gaming. Decided for a Samsung Galaxy Book Pro. Expensive machine, but slightly cheaper than a MacBook Air. good i7 11gen processor,…

> And yes, I know people have plenty of complaints about apple, but I never had encountered such an obvious problem with an Apple product. Have they not stress-tested this stuff? I'm not going to argue that many of Apples products aren't well built but MBPs have had their share of problems too. Such as - The butterfly keys being extremely easy to break? (I have a few keys on mine that don't work properly any more) -…

Indeed there are plenty of examples of suboptimal Apple designs.

2015 Retina MBP, the trackpad cable runs over the battery, and the heat from the battery means I have to replace the trackpad cable every 6-12 months.

Earlier Intel aluminum iMacs would literally toast the LCD if you ran Windows on them, because the fans wouldn't ramp up enough, even if you had all the Bootcamp drivers properly installed. Sometimes this would happen in MacOS also. Needed to run 3rd party fan control programs, or you'd end up seeing brown areas on the screen around where the CPU and GPU heatsinks were.

As far as enclosures go, yes Apple stuff is physically pretty sturdy.

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Post by nvarsj » Tue, Dec 07, 2021, 2:42 PM UTC

vlunkr wrote: post #73

So do airpods actually sound better than the standard wired headphones? If they don't, this is a lot of fancy engineering for some pretty bad headphones. Maybe they just didn't fit my ears or something, but I've always hated them.

No, they sound pretty crap to be honest if you're used to high quality over the ear headphones. But that's not really their purpose. They are ideal as portable earpieces - walking around town, on the train, folding your laundry, or any other use case where you can't sit down and plug in your headphones. The lack of a wire is very convenient.

Although these days I just use wired earpods. Can't be arsed to replace my last airpods whose battery inevitably died.

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Post by wiliaonson » Tue, Dec 07, 2021, 2:44 PM UTC

elzbardico wrote: post #100

This is still the strongest apple advantage: design, engineering and build quality. Recently I wanted to buy a second notebook so I could leave my MBPro at home in trips where I didn't want to work, but still had a machine that run linux and windows for some quick idea or even some light gaming. Decided for a Samsung Galaxy Book Pro. Expensive machine, but slightly cheaper than a MacBook Air. good i7 11gen processor,…

I agree with what you have said, I have my fair share of Apple products, and they didn't disappoint me.

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Post by eptcyka » Tue, Dec 07, 2021, 2:50 PM UTC

elzbardico wrote: post #100

This is still the strongest apple advantage: design, engineering and build quality. Recently I wanted to buy a second notebook so I could leave my MBPro at home in trips where I didn't want to work, but still had a machine that run linux and windows for some quick idea or even some light gaming. Decided for a Samsung Galaxy Book Pro. Expensive machine, but slightly cheaper than a MacBook Air. good i7 11gen processor,…

A lot of the M1 macbooks had similar issues where displays would crack seemingly without any abuse. All in the name of thinness. I wouldn't suppose that it's the users or horrible design at fault, but rather an issue where some tolerances were not met, so some of the parts in production are less durable than what is needed to execute the design.

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Post by eptcyka » Tue, Dec 07, 2021, 2:54 PM UTC

kalleboo wrote: post #272

hnlmorg wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe not with Samsung but I've found other manufacturers to be better. Asus, for example, were very quick to resolve a battery issue I had for a laptop that was out of warranty. They even offered me a gift for my inconvenience. Apple, on the other hand, are only willing to fix issues if you pay them a substantial amount. Often a figure that approaches the cost of a new device.

I've heard plenty of anecdotes of people getting Apple to fix their Mac hardware even outside of warranty. Mostly in the US where they seem to care more about customer support. It's all anecdotes though so I have no idea how common it is.

I'd wager they get their stuff fixed out of warranty due to a class action lawsuit, rather than good will. Apple never wanted to fix any of my broken iStuff, even if I wanted to pay for it.

They (Apple support representatives) will lie to your face, telling you that to replace a headphone jack or a charge port, one has to replace the whole motherboard, totalling the device.

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Post by rootusrootus » Tue, Dec 07, 2021, 3:24 PM UTC

MaKey wrote: post #282

hk__2 wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has nothing to do with some evil planned obsolescence, it’s just that you can’t make a device that small while retaining (easy) battery replacement capability. https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/blog/your-wireless-earbud...

Turns out you can: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Galaxy+Buds+Live+Tea...

Those are huge, though. There's a trade-off.

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Post by antihero » Tue, Dec 07, 2021, 3:29 PM UTC

GhettoComputers wrote: post #170

nunez wrote: post #134

I think the AirPods Pro were a regression from the OG AirPods for four reasons: - Idle life took a huge dive from the originals. My OGs haven't been charged in something like six months, and the case is still at something like 20%. Meanwhile, the case holding the APPs would die in less than a week and the buds inside of them a week after that. My wife's APPs have been lost for a while because of this. - Noise cancell…

Try the galaxy buds plus they’re much better at everything for me. This firmware update probably kneecapped the pros too, either a patent issue or worries about people walking into traffic. https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/17/21069953/apple-airpods-pr...

How slick is the GB integratation with iOS devices in comparison to the AirPods. Been considering getting some AP3s because I keep forgetting my ATH-M50Xs as they are large.