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Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Post by Kadin »

leephillips wrote: post #230
chrisco255 wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HTML based NFTs are a thing. You can reference arbitrary HTML & JS from the 'animation_url' in the NFT's metadata and produce interactive NFTs. ArcadeNFT is an example of a project that utilizes this: https://opensea.io/assets/0xa0c38108bbb0f5f2fb46a2019d7314cc...

2021 will be remembered as the year when all the jokes died. When everything is reality, there can be no satire.

> When everything is reality, there can be no satire.

Hell is empty, and all the devils are here.

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Post by brightball »

rufus_foreman wrote: post #120

My first software dev job was in the 90's writing PHP for a mom and pop ISP that was trying to get into app development. It was originally supposed to be Perl, the job interview was something like: Me: demos CRUD app for keeping track of my record collection, hosted on a free site Owner: You wrote this? Me: Yeah. Owner: This is in Perl? Me: Yeah. So I got hired. The day I got there, he told me they were going to use…

I remember being so excited when I figured out how to hide the borders of frames and do a layout with nested tables.

Probably the one trick I learned back then that I still use today is naming the target in links. I remember noticing Yahoo doing it on their Fantasy Football setup so that if you clicked on the news beside a bunch of different players and clicked the same one more than once, it would only load the player into its specific window. Since I’ve always been a person that opens tons of links as I’m going through a page and then reads each of them after, it was nice to not have duplicate windows (tabs) everywhere.

Still works and to this day I never use target=“_blank”.

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Post by Kadin »

sircastor wrote: post #148
davidbarker wrote: post #11

That's the first time I've heard DHTML to mean "distributed HTML" — I always knew it to mean "dynamic HTML".

I came over to post this. I’ve never heard “distributed HTML”. And I’m not even sure what the distributed part would be.

Yeah, I clicked over to see if this was a joke or a mistake. I'm still honestly not sure.

It was definitely "Dynamic HTML". Just a few weeks ago, I threw out a bunch of old issues of MacWorld... one of them had a cover article on the then-new technology of DHTML.

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Post by kccqzy »

This is probably a bit after the 90s but for some reason young me got incredibly excited when I learned about the voice-family CSS hack. Simultaneously it felt like such a brilliant hack to leverage poor CSS parsers of the day, and yet the mere existence of voice-family felt like an early glimpse of a futuristic audio browser.

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Post by Kadin »

djxfade wrote: post #155
ameen wrote: post #138

A lot of old 90's "hacks" are still commonplace in current email design. Thanks to Outlook's reliance on a brain dead MS Word-based rendering system rather than using actual modern HTML5. And since Outlook is still the standard for email clients in the workplace, all other systems are impacted as well. It's interesting to see modern day developers struggle with email design and turn to folks like us :D

Ironically Gmail's web based email client also renders the HTML bad. I guess they emulate what Outlook is doing.

Honestly, at this point we should classify "Email HTML" as a different subspecies than regular ol' Web HTML. They evolved from a common ancestor, sure, but Email HTML is like some sort of flightless bird on a remote Pacific island: it kinda just... stopped.

Gmail and Outlook basically define "Email HTML".

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Post by scantron4 »

tenebrisalietum wrote: post #116
dmje wrote: post #41

Wow. That took me back. All those things, every day. And table layouts of course. And let's not forget slicing images, and slapping those into tables too. If I remember rightly, Photoshop had an "export to slices" thing built in. Amazing. Loved it. And of course one of the biggest issues with today's web: you can't just view source and copy paste. You're in the land of chasing back up CSS files, js libraries, or find…

> finding yourself unable to steal an image There's browser extensions that will convert a whole page as it is loaded in the browser to an image file. For ever-scrolling pages you have to manually stop it.

Or just printscreen?

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Post by LAC-Tech »

tarkin2 wrote: post #190

This makes me feel old. But also glad. I'm glad I experienced web dev before the current pile of abstractions, painful convenience tools and frameworks were lumped upon us. It was fun back then. Now it's a pain.

I mean nothing is stopping you just using CSS, JS and HTML in 2021.

Well except the anguished screams of your react loving co-workers.

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