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Post by bitshiftfaced »

lucasgonze wrote: post #168
eric_b wrote: post #89

This will get downvoted immediately but what the heck. I understand we need better representation for people of color in many places - but dang Google, not a single white guy on the Pixel 6 page [0]?? Dozens of photos of people, not one white male. Sort of jarring in the reverse if you ask me. [0] https://store.google.com/product/pixel_6?hl=en-US Edit: Because the common reply to mine seems to be "Well now you know h…

You're precisely missing the point. There is a new feature to better capture non-white skin tones. Those photos are to illustrate a product benefit. https://twitter.com/search?q=%23RealTone&src=typed_query&f=t...

I'd be on board with that reasoning, but at the same time it is quite rare to see an able-bodied white man on the "Google Doodles" (where Google highlights people from history). At some point it does feel like they go out of their way to exclude that demographic.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by krzyk »

bduerst wrote: post #259
krzyk wrote: post #231

No Face Unlock, bummer. Rumors where that it will be in the 6 Pro, but technical specification doesn't mention it. So I'm staying with Pixel 4, yet another year.

I thought face unlock has been a security vector for the iPhone, and that even Apple is thinking of dropping it?

It doesn't look like it, they still release phones exclusively with face unlock.

What security issues can it have? Fingerprint sensors could be fooled with less work.

And fingerprint sensors don't work always (e.g. for me they don't).

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by jeltz »

Sodman wrote: post #224

I hate the trend that the "pro" versions of all these flagship phones need to be an XL Phablet monstrosity. Human hands haven't gotten any bigger. I have owned most of the Nexus & Pixel phones throughout the years. After having the Nexus 6 as my daily driver for 2 years, I have always opted for the smaller option ever since. I would totally pay flagship prices for a regular ~5.5-6" phone with flagship specs, and I'm…

Yes! I have small hands and can barely use the Pixel 5, which was the smallest Android phone of the largest generation. And now it seems like Pixel 6 has also become a fablet.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by wvenable »

kadoban wrote: post #92
wvenable wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For both Google and Samsung, security updates. Google says "Feature drops for at least three years from when the device first became available on the Google Store in the US." on the shop page footnotes. Samsung says you get 3 major Android updates on your devices. Therefore, Samsung is a better deal for updates assuming Google doesn't release a new major Android version every year.

Does Samsung still take an eternity to do the actual updates once they're available from Goog?

A couple of months for sure.

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Post by systemvoltage »

eric_b wrote: post #89

This will get downvoted immediately but what the heck. I understand we need better representation for people of color in many places - but dang Google, not a single white guy on the Pixel 6 page [0]?? Dozens of photos of people, not one white male. Sort of jarring in the reverse if you ask me. [0] https://store.google.com/product/pixel_6?hl=en-US Edit: Because the common reply to mine seems to be "Well now you know h…

Yep, welcome to the woke world where racism is at the front and center, instead of pushing it behind us and calling everyone a human. Slack is begging me to choose a skin color for my emoji.

Everything about this culture is extremely off-putting to me. I am an immigrant to USA and a person of color if that matters, I didn't sign up for this and really don't want this culture in the place I now consider home.

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Post by Deathmax »

mvanbaak wrote: post #261
isoprophlex wrote: post #34

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Don't move the goal posts. On-device scanning has a qualitatively different privacy impact from scanning photos inside cloud storage.

Why do people prefer the scanning on the cloud storage? That means it will never be encrypted and stored unencrypted on HDD's in someone else's computer. 'scan -> encrypt -> upload' is in my opinion better than 'upload -> scan'

Which would justify Apple using on-device scanning more if iCloud is end-to-end encrypted, except that it isn't. Apple has the technical capability to decrypt photos stored on iCloud, so why risk the slippery slope and governments applying pressure to expand local scanning to more than just what is going to be uploaded.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by jeltz »

krzyk wrote: post #268
GOATS- wrote: post #219

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The phone is only available in a handful countries at launch it seems. https://9to5google.com/2021/10/19/the-pixel-6-series-is-now-...

Not only at launch. Google limits Pixel sales/support to a small set of countries. Doesn't even include all EU. Strange tactic for someone wanting to sell more phones.

Pixel 5 was never sold in Sweden. I bought mine from a French webshop which ships to Sweden.

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Post by smt88 »

dexterdog wrote: post #258
buu700 wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it rightful to chastise them either way? It'd be one thing if there were a leaked internal memo saying to exclude a particular race, but this could just as easily be the result of a marketing intern arbitrarily selecting stock photos. Personally, I also didn't notice the presence of white men or lack thereof until you brought it up.

In what statistical universe could it have played out like it did?

Any random one, just as it's possible to flip a coin and get heads a few times in a row.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by tdrdt »

DCKing wrote: post #20

Thanks Google. Think I’ll be buying this. I want as little to do with Google’s services as possible in my life, but they really deserve credits for making a modern usable smartphone that is reasonably open. There is just one single feature I will be buying this for - the 5 years of software updates. While good image processing is definitely a pro, all of these software you’re presenting features I really don’t give a…

Germany tries to push for a 7 year minimum update policy in the EU.

If the EU agrees this will be very interesting for the smartphone market.

5 years of security updates is already great.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by ericmay »

Sargos wrote: post #250
ericmay wrote: post #232

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Which is ok, and if you don’t use Safari then you don’t have to worry about this.

I'm not sure what you mean by not worrying about iOS needing OS updates for browser upgrades as the Safari engine is the only web browser engine allowed on iOS and third party browsers like Chrome are just skins on top of Safari and not real counterparts to their desktop cousins. Upgrading the OS is the only way to get new web functionality and bug fixes.

Web browsers have to use the Safari engine but that doesn't mean they don't also separately update the browsers and add functionality. I.e. you mostly get modularity by not using Safari even if you have to rely on the underlying Safari engine being updated. Most of the features users notice are updated by the app provider anyway.
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