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Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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> Do we want to make exclusivity deals between businesses illegal? In certain circumstances, we already do (kind of): FRAND licensing for technical standards are a good example.

But that's done voluntarily and not forced by the state? >[...] (FRAND) terms, denote a voluntary licensing commitment that standards organizations often request from the owner of an intellectual property right (usually a patent) that is, or may become, essential to practice a technical standard.

AFAIK government terms often require FRAND licensing for technology developped with public funds.

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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"This will be a massive licensing stream in the future"

Do you really think "old" Microsoft thought that far into the future for this back then? This was before the days of software becoming walled-garden lock-in subscription-ware; when quarterly revenue relied solely on the number of licenses sold and pirated licenses were seen as lost revenue. I assumed they just though that if everyone had only legit copies, then Microsoft's revenues would quintuple overnight effective…

> Do you really think "old" Microsoft thought that far into the future for this back then?

I always assumed so, and same for Adobe. For many years, their software was trivial to pirate. My understanding is, they let individuals pirate Windows/Photoshop to ensure widespread popularity, especially among people who wouldn't be able to pay for that software anyway - and applied pressure to any business using their software.

There's only so much money they could get from the cohort of teens and their parents trying to play games or trim their photos, but every year, a part of that population graduated to becoming employees and business owners, preferring to use the software they already know, and having money to finally pay for it.

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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> Do you really think "old" Microsoft thought that far into the future for this back then? Yes. - they killed Netscape in the 90s because they realised owning the web browser market meant locking people into Windows - they ran the Xbox division for years at a loss knowing it would eventually pay out - they bailed out Apple financially knowing that a long term competitor to Windows meant a reduced likelihood of monopo…

Communism isn't that bad. I remember Cancer .

Honestly? In some way, maybe they've actually had a point. Beyond all the good things that FOSS gave us, what it also did was to commoditize software, forcing software companies to make money in extremely abusive ways - through advertising, surveillance, and forcing everything into being a service.

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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There is a good guy in the space already it's Valve. The Index was good, and there are rumors that they are developing their own standalone VR headset (search "Deckard") which would theoretically compete directly with Quest 2.

I agree with Valve's position as an alternative...but the Index is priced 10k+ so targeted a completely different public, and Deckard is only rumored as far as I know. We have no idea if/when/how it will be released, or if they'll be able to reach a competitive price. I wish them to succeed, but wouldn't count on it until we have actual release info. It actually reminds me that Sony is rumored to release a Playstatio…

The index is ~1k, I don't know where you got the 10k figure from.

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Communism isn't that bad. I remember Cancer .

Honestly? In some way, maybe they've actually had a point. Beyond all the good things that FOSS gave us, what it also did was to commoditize software, forcing software companies to make money in extremely abusive ways - through advertising, surveillance, and forcing everything into being a service.

You cannot blame that in Open source though, nor even Linux specifically. It was companies like Google, Yahoo! and Geocities that really set the expectation for free software with the average user and they were companies built around advertising and walled gardens. Outside of tech circles, almost nobody ran open source. But most people had or knew someone who had free email, et al.

Commercial companies did this to themselves as they raced to the bottom with aggressive pricing and a need to dominate at a global scale.

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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> pro gamers At this point, that's a keyword that indicates not to buy a product.

Honestly the hardware-for-gamers paradigm has done a lot for making better mice, keyboards, chairs, and headsets that stand up to all-day abuse. I'll cede that the RGB thing is wildly out of control (WHO NEEDS RBG RAM STICKS?!?) but overall I think it gives developers far better of-the-shelf choices than one would have 10 years ago.

> better mice, keyboards, chairs, and headsets

Mice and keyboards that don't operate without online-registration-required accounts?

Chairs and keyboards that look cool for streamers but are utterly unergonomic?

And headsets with cat ears on them...

No thanks.

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Facebook keeps asking Congress to make laws. How about this one: Peripherals, including mice, monitors, keyboards, VR headsets or any other device used to process input or output from a computer, may NOT be connected to any cloud service with an account. Any such cloud connections MUST be for software updates only and software updates MUST be capable of permanent opt-out without any loss of usage. I mean I grew up wi…

Has anyone else noticed what a large add campaign Facebook has launched featuring Millennials asking for new and re-vamped Internet regulation? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kur94OyXf3U What is this all about?

Facebook wants to be the ones in the room helping write the new regulations to make sure it works in their favor, mostly

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Setting up all those stupid sensor boxes is a massive chore that takes away the immense joy of throwing it in a backpack and bringing it to the cottage for a round of Beat Sabre. Honestly, I hated setting up, packing up and re-setting up my Vive. As a VR dev, I had to do it so often that the benefits of the sensor-free, wire-free, and; of course, most importantly computer-free operation of the Quest - combined with i…

Why pack up? I just leave them on the walls. The biggest pain point I've heard with respect to Lighthouse is you can't put blankets on yourself while maintaining tracking.

If the poster needs to travel or do some testing with users in different locations he will need to pack all that stuff up every time.
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