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As an avid toast data-logger that would really put me over the edge. I have 9 years of daily toast data and I graph it in interesting ways a la Mr. Wolfram

But you don’t store your toast data in the toaster do you?

The cloud is just somebody else’s toaster.

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Some people really care about pricing, others don't. There are 'bargin' stores in my area, and higher end stores. The higher end stores have lots more bio stuff to buy, and other fancy goods, but also stock major brands of everything else. Even though the product is the same, the pricing is 15% average more expensive for those common products. I suspect they get away with it, because you're already there, and I never…

Makes sense. As I said, all else being equal I'd rather not have these. Presented with a situation like Kindle devices, in which the ad-supported item is cheaper, the choice is a little harder. Thinking more about the product, there's probably also a long-term vision wherein it becomes more useful than it is today. e.g. maybe it automatically handles tracking quantities and greys out the item photo when it's out (and…

You can buy eink shelf labels that have radios in them for the self updating pricing and promotional pricing features. Not sure if they make ones that can handle being in fridge/freezer though (condensation is huge problem in those environments).

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It's an ad platform plain and simple; that's the whole value proposition. So I imagine every pitch, every meeting was about that. And every store that uses it will be doing it to get a cut of the ad revenue. It's true that it's lousy at being glass, but that's like saying smallpox blankets were a lousy way to make friends with Native Americans. The shittiness of it, in other words, was the goal all along, and any res…

Why not just charge the existing products for access to premium shelf space and classify that as advertising revenue? I don't see the point of putting ads in between the customer and what was already effectively an ad (i.e. the packaging/product itself).

Brands already bid for shelf placement.

Think about ads being contextual, e.g. for complementary products, or unrelated to the products inside at all but briefly reminding about new stuff, promotions, sales, etc.

Imagine thus screen showing navigation help ("where is milk?"), product data("is it sugar-free?") and other such things momentarily.

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Not to worry, we'll be in WW3 by then, as states try to respond to mass upheavals caused by our failure to stop catastrophic climate change. Toast will not be a primary concern.

Toast will not be a primary concern. Bread will be though.

...let them eat toast!

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I do not blame cooler screen for selling this technology to anyone. But I want everyone to consider how much it takes to bring about a technology like this to a grocery store. If this is any of the big chain groceries, the manager doesn't even have the authority to put a sticker on the glass door. This was vetted by hundreds of people and none of them thought... glass? Business class tickets were purchased, hotels we…

> I would really, really love to have been in that sales pitch meeting.

Me too. I could do with getting a bit of extra cash handed to me in a brown envelope.

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Every slice has unique nooks and crannies to create a 2D pattern, allowing for DRM and personalization!

Personalization so they can never be returned, right? --- Pepperidge Farms.... D: NOOOOOO https://www.heb.com/product-detail/pepperidge-farm-original-... My grandmother made those in her Sunbeam toaster before loading them with room-temperature butter and Laura Scudder's smooth peanut butter. (Yes, my grandmother kept butter at room temperature but refrigerated the eggs. Go figure... grandmothers.)

> My grandmother made those in her Sunbeam toaster before loading them with room-temperature butter and Laura Scudder's smooth peanut butter. (Yes, my grandmother kept butter at room temperature but refrigerated the eggs. Go figure... grandmothers.)

American commercial eggs (and this has been true for a long time) need refrigeration because thet are washed, which reduces surface pathogens but compromises the eggs natural resistance to environmental pathogens and spoilage. Meanwhile, in most climates, butter is safe out of refrigeration. So, your grandmother was doing it right.

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The year is 2050 and your dingy old toaster has finally given up it's last crumbs. You hop onto Amazon in hopes of finding a suitable replacement as there's no longer any box stores you can travel to. Dumb appliances have been phased out and newer internet connected appliances have taken over. It's better for the consumer they claim. Not wanting an overtly fancy contraption you pick a no frills unit that includes a t…

I use to be so enthusiastic about technology. Now I almost dread the next innovation for how it will inevitably find it’s major use case in advertising. I swear I’m turning Luddite.

You're not alone.

As a 28 year old in tech for the last 7 years, I am definitely a Luddite.

Its heartbreaking some of the most talented minds in software engineering are just making ads appear.

The internet is an ad network with content at this point.

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How you gonna spread cold butter? :)

Yeah, standard American kitchen: butter on the counter (in a semi-airtight butter tray) and eggs in the fridge.

I have never seen anyone in America keep their butter on counter and not in the fridge. I have lived in 7 states in both coasts and upper Midwest.

Generally, I assumed if it’s in the refrigerator in grocery store (which butter is) then it goes in refrigerator at home.

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For those unaware, this is exactly the main point of the story "Unauthorized Bread" by Cory Doctorow. I liked the story and would recommend it.

A link to an exerpt: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/01/unauthorized-bread-a-...

(The excerpt contains the story in its entirety. It's excerpted from a book that consists of multiple stories.)
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