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Re: Brave Search beta

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Is that legal?

Why wouldn't it be? Google scrapes the web to populate it's results, why wouldn't other search engines scrape the web as well? Google is a website.

Because Google's robots.txt disallows it, and those websites allow it.

Re: Brave Search beta

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compare search results for "lab leak" https://search.brave.com/search?q=lab+leak https://www.google.com/search?q=lab+leak https://duckduckgo.com/?q=lab+leak https://www.bing.com/search?q=lab+leak

How do they fare on the 'tank man' test?

nearly identical, iirc that was not the case on june 4th

Re: Brave Search beta

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I find it very interesting that Eich was outsted from Mozilla for his anti-gay stance, and much of HN was in agreement at the time, yet this seems to never come up with Brave despite LGBTQ rights having far stronger support today. Why is that?

I support LGBTQ rights, but I hate cancel culture. It's not acceptable to bully someone for something wrong he said or did many years ago.

Re: Brave Search beta

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I'm not trying to re-litigate the past. But it was enough of a consequential donation back then to have removed from as CEO of Mozilla. So that's a pretty big deal. Somehow that has never made its way into anything related to Brave as far as I've noticed, and generally I've followed the company at least in terms of top HN links (always curious to see what people are doing in the browser space). I've never seen it men…

> But it was enough of a consequential donation back then to have removed from as CEO of Mozilla. False. The reason for leaving Mozilla was never published. > I'm wondering if I'm missing something like he himself did some about-face, or people lost track of this, or if they just don't care anymore or what? So your disappointed Hacker News isn't more engaged with identity politics and cancel culture? And by the way y…

> False. The reason for leaving Mozilla was never published.

Well, then the timing is so aligned then at this point it's just occam's razor unless there's another explanation.

> So your disappointed Hacker News isn't more engaged with identity politics and cancel culture?

There's plenty of that. It's nearly daily now on HN. That wasn't my point at all. Just the inconsistency has always been apparent for years now so I finally asked the hive mind.

> And by the way you are wrong. It has come up in several threads in the past.

I stand corrected. I had never noticed those comments. That said, it was easy to not notice them as they're a tiny fraction of everything around Brave and have almost no discussion around them compared to his original ousting.

Re: Brave Search beta

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If that's all that's offered, why does DDG's obscure shebangs work on Brave Search? https://search.brave.com/search?q=!hn+brave+search

Oh, apologies for the confusion. We support DDG's shebangs too; the above list is what we add to the list.

!g is called a bang.

A shebang is something else ('#!').

Re: Brave Search beta

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I think they copied DuckDuckGo's bangs. It's nowhere in the documentation, and the UI never indicates it, but bang searches (like `!stackoverflow parse html with regex`) work in Brave Search exactly as they do in DuckDuckGo. Preliminary testing of mine suggests that they just copied DuckDuckGo's list directly–I tried a few obscure ones from DDG, like `!ldss` or `!uib`, and they work in Brave Search. @w0ts0n any detai…

We support many shebangs, with more to come in the future. For now, this is what is offered: !i - Search Images !n - Search News !a - Amazon !b - Bing !d - DuckDuckGo !e - eBay !g - Google !p - Pinterest !r - Reddit !s - StartPage !w - Wikipedia !li - LinkedIn !gh - GitHub !gm - Google Maps !so - Stack Overflow !tw - Twitter !yt - YouTube !wa - Wolfram Alpha !mj - Mojeek !osm - Open Street Map !mdn - Mozilla Develope…

!g is called a bang. A shebang is '#!'.

Re: Brave Search beta

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What incentive do Google and Bing have to share free SERP data to Brave in an anonymous channel?

They aren't sharing it with Brave directly, but rather with users. The query is issued via the participating user's Brave instance. This data then supplements what Brave Search has found, and assists Brave Search in presenting better results to that user, and others, in the future.

This sounds like a dishonest way of bypassing payment for Google search API by impersonating a request from a user.

Re: Brave Search beta

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> But it was enough of a consequential donation back then to have removed from as CEO of Mozilla. False. The reason for leaving Mozilla was never published. > I'm wondering if I'm missing something like he himself did some about-face, or people lost track of this, or if they just don't care anymore or what? So your disappointed Hacker News isn't more engaged with identity politics and cancel culture? And by the way y…

> False. The reason for leaving Mozilla was never published. Well, then the timing is so aligned then at this point it's just occam's razor unless there's another explanation. > So your disappointed Hacker News isn't more engaged with identity politics and cancel culture? There's plenty of that. It's nearly daily now on HN. That wasn't my point at all. Just the inconsistency has always been apparent for years now so…

It's not a current news event. It's old news. Why are you so desperate to cancel him... again?

Re: Brave Search beta

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Why wouldn't it be? Google scrapes the web to populate it's results, why wouldn't other search engines scrape the web as well? Google is a website.

This is naive. Web sites have various terms of service.

Violating a website's ToS is hardly illegal, though.

Re: Brave Search beta

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"Three times faster than Chrome. Better privacy by default than Firefox. Uses 35% less battery on mobile."

If we're trusting the lies they dump onto the website, that should make Safari the fastest browser! /s

It is?
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