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Apple's iCloud+ “VPN”

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Re: Apple's iCloud+ “VPN”

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I think this is great, if only as a way to kill the bullshit consumer VPN business, which sells snake oil.

what is bullshit about it

You’re “protecting” yourself against Starbucks monitoring you by establishing a secure connection to a grey market entity with more of an interest in your activity.

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I've been trying to point this out to people but YouTube personalities have a louder voice than anyone else so you end up with bad information. Props to Apple for offering an (albeit low entropy) onion router on their own infrastructure. I can't imagine this is going to win them any friends in government circles but it's definitely a step in the right direction. I'd also really like to see Apple come clean about the…

I am running APple's betas for iOS, iPadOS, and macOS right now - I really appreciate their implementing yet more privacy. re: non-encrypted iCloud storage: I agree with you. I keep medical and financial data encrypted (e.g., their Pages app supports encrypting documents, and you can encrypt PDFs, etc.) but I would rather they did this for me. That said, for the 90% of my files that I would post on a street corner, I…

But how secure is encrypted pages and PDF? My understanding was it is not useful against a determined attacker and anyone able to access your iCloud will be in this category.

Re: Apple's iCloud+ “VPN”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hasselhoff drifts on to stage in KITT, jumps out, and tackles Tim Cook. They then get up, shake, laugh, and take turns explaining how iCloud+ VPN makes it look like everything you do online comes from Apple.

He may sing in German as the musical guest they sometimes have at the end of the keynotes, but that’s as much flexibility as I’m willing to allow.

Can William Daniels at least voice the car saying "one more thing" before throwing it to Hasselhoff?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You still can in some places if I recall correctly. Notably not in US due to licensing disagreements (of course).

Like, commonwealth nations? Or just countries too small to bother with the legal fees?

Like, you can download BBC iPlayer (or could) and pay a fee. For UK license fee payers, the app and content is free.

I don't think the content was identical, but it was pretty broad. Some EU countries, maybe Canada?, at least.

Re: Apple's iCloud+ “VPN”

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I've been trying to point this out to people but YouTube personalities have a louder voice than anyone else so you end up with bad information. Props to Apple for offering an (albeit low entropy) onion router on their own infrastructure. I can't imagine this is going to win them any friends in government circles but it's definitely a step in the right direction. I'd also really like to see Apple come clean about the…

> I can't imagine this is going to win them any friends in government circles but it's definitely a step in the right direction. Apple already has all the friends they need in the "government circles". They're fully enrolled in PRISM and are well-known to kowtow to the demands of corrupt leadership (see: Russian iPhones, Chinese iCloud hosting)

Apple is “fully enrolled” in PRISM just like any other company with U.S. operations, because PRISM is the internal NSA source designation for material acquired via FISA warrants, and complying with FISA warrants is not optional.

Re: Apple's iCloud+ “VPN”

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Where are the Apple VPN exit points?

I wish there was a non-dubious VPN service with an exit in a non GDPR country, or at least one with internet privacy. I rolled a strongswan VPN through AWS EC2 but all the egress points are in countries that can be exposed.

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post #204

I've been trying to point this out to people but YouTube personalities have a louder voice than anyone else so you end up with bad information. Props to Apple for offering an (albeit low entropy) onion router on their own infrastructure. I can't imagine this is going to win them any friends in government circles but it's definitely a step in the right direction. I'd also really like to see Apple come clean about the…

iClouds lack of encryption basically invalidates all other promises they make.

If you believe this you have misunderstood how iCloud works.

Re: Apple's iCloud+ “VPN”

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> or you can view it as a concession to reality: If Apple didn't do this, the video providers would block their exit nodes, as they do with any VPN provider that gets large enough for them to notice. I seriously doubt any reasonable video streaming service would cut off such a huge chunk of their user base just because they are using an iPhone.

I expect they would just show a message "to view our content, download our app - Safari is not supported"

But when you download the app: “please use safari to pay for subscriptions” :)

Re: Apple's iCloud+ “VPN”

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Props to Apple for the design of this service. It doesn't hit all the privacy targets that long-time personal VPN users might be looking for, and it doesn't get into the game of trying to circumvent region locked content*, but otherwise it's likely to be a solid privacy improvement for almost all users in a careful and deliberate way. I use a VPN for other reasons (downloading Ubuntu ISOs mostly) but I'll probably tu…

> It would be nice if the BBC didn't block like this, but UK residents do typically pay for the content whereas those outside the UK are unable to. As an exiled Londoner, I would love to be able to pay to access BBC programmes. Unfortunately I can’t, so a VPN is often the only solution (well, I guess torrenting would be another one, but it’s not really better).

BBC Select is another option for BBC documentaries if you have either Amazon Prime video or an Apple TV.

https://www.bbcselect.com/

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