Australian Federal Police and FBI nab underworld figures using encrypted app

Post by michaelmrose » Tue, Jun 08, 2021, 4:36 PM UTC

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I suspect that people don't fall into such neat categories. You could pose a similar question re: lawyers whose bread and butter is protecting and representing people associated with organised crime (the kind of individuals represented by Maury from The Wire or Neil Mink from The Sopranos). Are they lawyers who developed a slippery version of ethics & morality, or people with loose ethical standards who entered law?…

What? Representing criminals is not unethical or 'immoral'. Period. Protecting criminals legally is not unethical unless you are knowingly doing something illegal yourself. I imagine that most layers are just doing their job and getting paid for it. Bringing morality into that equation makes no sense in a legal system that has little to nothing to do with morality.

Post by vkou » Tue, Jun 08, 2021, 4:53 PM UTC

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> I expect this to be bigger than Panama Papers. Way bigger. I expect a few prominent politicians to be soon either arrested or "convinced" to step down. I highly doubt it. The main drug operations run with state approval. If anything this was just an attempt to either clean the country from competition or just keep law enforcement busy. If you read the reports, what they have collected, this is nothing if you compar…

In other words, police and customs forces never bother to measure their “success” (seizures) in percent. If they did, they’d get defunded. We’d get more off the streets by just buying it.

Post by jorblumesea » Tue, Jun 08, 2021, 4:55 PM UTC

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One of the (publicly unspoken) conditions to offer VPN services in western countries is to keep logs and provide on their request, regardless of the marketing stories. There are several verifiable cases where Nord has cooperated with FBI and Interpol and provided logs, but this is a fairly small lie, compared to the time when they tried to keep quiet about a breach. Not saying that having a VPN service from Russia or…

Russia and China would in fact be a better solution as most Westerners are never going to be subject to Russian or Chinese authorities.

Post by md_ » Tue, Jun 08, 2021, 5:09 PM UTC

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Presumably the feds wouldn't say who they were and would pose as common criminals, because they wouldn't have any reason to suppose that the datacenter operator would keep quiet if they were open about their identity.

But yours assumes that Russia doesn't do counter-intel and wouldn't be looking for exactly these kinds of infiltrations. If it is obvious to us that these things would be targets, I'm pretty sure it is obvious to Russian intelligence services.

Post by Chris2048 » Tue, Jun 08, 2021, 5:09 PM UTC

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I'm sure there are plenty of people who wouldn't care. Anyone who buys diamonds has blood on their hands too.

I think there is a material difference between buying a diamond and directly facilitating the activities of the drug cartels. In theory everyone buys things that are made by people in shitty conditions because there isn't much direct visibility on the front end as to what kind of nastiness happened elsewhere in the supply chain. If you want that to change you have to make it illegal to do business with such folks not…