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Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by tshaddox »

FemmeAndroid wrote: post #227
dang wrote: post #210

The submitted title was "Y Combinator kicks out Paul Biggar over a tweet". That is inaccurate, so in keeping with the HN guidelines (" Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize. " https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html ), I've replaced the title with the tweet text. That's the standard thing we do with titles, when people post Twitter links. Much as I'd love to,…

Honest question, since I’ve seen the situation come up before: Would you be willing to modify the title of any post to be ‘accurate’ based on non-public information, without making that information public? If so, how does one make that request, and what would the process look like? There have been a few titles I knew to be extremely misleading or false, but never thought there was a way to rectify it without publicly…

If so, wouldn't that be vulnerable to an attack where we make submissions enumerating claims and observe which ones get modified? :)

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by magicalist »

dang wrote: post #210

The submitted title was "Y Combinator kicks out Paul Biggar over a tweet". That is inaccurate, so in keeping with the HN guidelines (" Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize. " https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html ), I've replaced the title with the tweet text. That's the standard thing we do with titles, when people post Twitter links. Much as I'd love to,…

> Much as I'd love to, it's not my place to say why the original title was inaccurate, so I'll just remind you all that there are two or more sides to every story and not everything on Twitter is true.

This reads a bit like "not to be that guy, but...". You won't say why for some reason, but clearly it's not to stay out of it because you're letting innuendo do the job.

Alternative suggestion: "That is inaccurate but it's not my place to elaborate." It would still express the point but avoid reinforcing the circle the wagons/"blue wall of silence"ness of this situation.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by 0xbadcafebee »

andrew_ wrote: post #266
dwaltrip wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Others appear to know next to nothing and appear very interested in sharing their opinions The modern internet in a nutshell. Of course, this is nothing new. We just now have more powerful tools for doing it. I wish saying "I don't know" or "I'm not sure but I'd like to learn more about that" was more widely valued.

I don't know anything about the situation, but what is evident is this is some of the worst of Twitter on display, and why I shy away from the platform more often than not.

The same comments were made here on HN...

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by natch »

random314 wrote: post #255
gruez wrote: post #237

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Biggar's accusation is that you "lied to skip the vaccine queue". In your comment implies that you didn't, but it wasn't stated explicitly. For the record, can you affirmatively deny that you haven't "lied to skip the vaccine queue"?

The yc founders commentary is highly unreliable. On Twitter he claimed that joe Biden declared that all adults are eligible for a vaccine in March. Hence he didn't skip the line. This is patently false. He has a different story here. I would take his claims with a huge helping of salt. All that we know is that he got vaccinated in March ahead of federal guidelines. Did he wait to obtain vaccines left over at the end…

I believe what are being thought of and judged by some (not you necessarily) as hard rules are actually just guidelines as you mentioned.

And individual sites are encouraged to use their discretion in giving out available doses, when extra doses are available, to people who would otherwise not fit the guidelines. Because having doses go to waste is not desirable. So, people passing judgement may be being overly harsh.

It’s hard to speak generally about it though because rules and guidelines vary from place to place.

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Post by koolba »

ekianjo wrote: post #174
saltedonion wrote: post #19

I’m confused. So YC kicked out the guy who complained about it on Twitter and not the people who advocated for lying to skip lines? Wtf?

Lying to skip lines is probably considered "growth hacking"

It’d likely count as a non-computer system you hacked.

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Post by pseudalopex »

beaner wrote: post #228
TheAdamAndChe wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a divisive political topic, and he associated an individual post made on an internal Ycombinator forum with Ycombinator itself. Comments of individuals don't represent the company, and by framing it like he did, he publicly dragged Ycombinator right into the middle of a contentious political debate.

All I've been hearing on HN for the last 6 years is how so many things are inherently political, that to not act is to condone, and that organizations should be made to take a stand by their employees/students/passers-by. Why does YC get an exception?

I don't know how you missed the many comments saying the opposite.

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Post by yownie »

beaner wrote: post #228
TheAdamAndChe wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a divisive political topic, and he associated an individual post made on an internal Ycombinator forum with Ycombinator itself. Comments of individuals don't represent the company, and by framing it like he did, he publicly dragged Ycombinator right into the middle of a contentious political debate.

All I've been hearing on HN for the last 6 years is how so many things are inherently political, that to not act is to condone, and that organizations should be made to take a stand by their employees/students/passers-by. Why does YC get an exception?

Because we'd have to change bookmarked websites apparently.

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Post by shkkmo »

whimsicalism wrote: post #218
scrollaway wrote: post #213

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They're not. To be honest I'm kind of baffled why people keep equating the two in their heads. I don't want to be "that guy", but use your imagination. Example 1: Low-risk person forges papers to claim they're high risk or in a situation that justifies getting a vaccine Right The Fuck Now, subsequently jumping through a bunch of hoops to get a spot in a highly crowded queue. Example 2: Person shows up at the end of t…

But example 2 wouldn't be skipping the queue, which is what the tweet is discussing. Plenty of people were doing the showing up at end of day thing, it wasn't frowned on at all back in March.

It is unclear what the tweet is discussing. I don't see any clear statement from Paul as to what exactly he is alleging was done.

One the the people who Paul is posting these allegations about did reply here and notes that they informed the staff they qere not CA eligible, waited 4 hours, then got the shot.

It was not explicitly stated that these were shots that would have been wasted, but the 4 hour wait (if true) would seem to imply that.

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Post by hef19898 »

gabereiser wrote: post #270
dasickis wrote: post #120

I'm the person this original tweet was about. None of you know any of the internal details but what I can state is that Paul has no idea what he's talking about and later admits to the fact I wasn't lying. Here's the order of events: 1. I went to a neighborhood clinic in Oakland, CA that's literally next door to my house, I can see the church from my window. Paul lives in NYC which is on the opposite end of the count…

When I lived in Denver a few months back, the mass-vaccination site of Coors Field was right behind my condo. I love to skateboard and OneWheel that lot (Coors Field lot C) and just rolled up in my OneWheel and a nurse asked if I was there for a vaccination. I said I wasn’t but that I also hadn’t been vaccinated. She directed me to the line and said “Well, go get yours”. At this time CO hadn’t opened up vaccines for…

I am split on that. Waiting in line behind all those having prioritized appointments in order to catch surplus doses, fine. Lying to get such an appointment? Not cool. Generally, we shouldn't make such a fuss vaccination on social media, either way.

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Post by [deleted] »

pseudalopex wrote: post #286
beaner wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All I've been hearing on HN for the last 6 years is how so many things are inherently political, that to not act is to condone, and that organizations should be made to take a stand by their employees/students/passers-by. Why does YC get an exception?

I don't know how you missed the many comments saying the opposite.

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