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'Compact' is flagged as not supported but looks like it still works.
How do you turn it on? I don't see it.
Right click on toolbar, select 'Customize Toolbar', click 'Density' option at the bottom (I'm macos).
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Besides floating tabs I find rest of Proton overhaul pretty good: better contrast, subjectively nicer colours, better focus styles, nice icons. After removing all corner rounding and tweaking tab bar I am quite happy.
Care to share the CSS for removing the rounded corners?
[1] https://gist.github.com/myfonj/f5415dd0580663a82ea18407ef2ee... This file starts with instructions how to make it work; I'm on Developer edition, Windows, dark theme. Same instruction wit illustration can be seen in Twitter thread [2] [2] https://twitter.com/myfonj/status/1387584962354982912
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UI design is like fashion design, often trying to catch your eye. Sometimes trying to be edgy or controversial, to provoke a reaction.
Browser is a tool to browse the web. Tools need to be functional first. There is a reason why there's no "summer 2021 hammer" in hardware store.
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"browser.proton.enabled" => false
"browser.uidensity" => 1
long term solution seems to be via userChrome.css: https://www.userchrome.org/firefox-89-styling-proton-ui.html
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Apparently they also added this annoying rubberish effect when you reach the end of a scrollable area, which can be turned off like this:
apz.overscroll.enabled => false
Chrome does superficial ui updates way less than Firefox. One of them got the priority right. Honestly these kinds of change can be welcomed by some people and not by some others, I personally don't like that thick ass tab bar.
> Chrome does superficial ui updates way less than Firefox. One of them got the priority right. Yeah, why change how things look when you've got data to harvest? But really I agree, the look is definitely not an improvement.
However, Chrome also seems to be rather consistent with its minimal UI philosophy. Firefox's UI doesnt appear to have a philosophy, I liked it regardless, at times.
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The tabs are more compact than they used to be
Really? They seem much bigger, like twice the size. I don’t dislike them as much as I initially did. They’re just a little to big on low resolution monitor. Personally I’d like to see browsers move away from trying to be “special” and just follow the design of operating system. A little tricky on Linux, but for Windows and macOS just follow the guidelines from Microsoft and Apple.
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Even the back button is wrong in the new version. Previously it spanned up to the left edge of the window. Now it's moved to the right, lacks immediate feedback and then it is drawn to the right with some new empty space for no reason but to make it harder to hit the back button, the most used button of the interface. The visual cue with the circle around it is also gone. Even the lines used to draw the arrow are thi…
> Even the back button is wrong in the new version. Previously it spanned up to the left edge of the window. When you actually try it instead of comparing screenshots, you'll see that its clickable area still goes all the way to the edge of the window. The button hasn't moved to the right; there's just more negative space because they removed the circle around it. Deleting that space would actually move the button to…
Then after some delay, the "area" of the button is shown, but not inclunding the newly "empty" space, which you claim is clickable.
But what is highlighted starts to the right. If my mouse is already close to the edge, it visually signals that it's not over the button, that is, that I moved the mouse too far.
It's very awful experience: not having the limits of the button drawn (which doesn't give me any hint of the area I can target), then not showing the limits fast enough once the pointer is there, then misleading about the limits (forcing me to move the mouse to the right even if I was already on the right place), drawing with the thinner line the arrow (also making it less obvious where it is): four wrongs in just one enforced update which is claimed to "improve" UI. On the most used button.
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Interestingly, they (or at least not all of them) didn't fake it - there's a style option on the tab control to turn tabs into push buttons. It looked exactly like the task bar - maybe the task bar was actually implemented using that control.
I did not know that. Is it this? https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/controls/tab-... https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/controls/tab-...
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Yeah, just disable the loader if you don't like it. Kinda unfair to call the whole system unfree for just being able to load non-free software.
Unfortunately some of the Linux kernel mainline has questionable licensing too. [1] In short, [2] and [3] are probably linux-firmware territory in the mainline kernel. [1] https://www.fsfla.org/pipermail/linux-libre/2020-August/0034... [2] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/lin... [3] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/lin...
> "We’ve redesigned and modernized the core experience to be cleaner, more inviting, and easier to use." Why does the UI change with every single Firefox release? I find myself having to re-adjust every time a new update is shipped. What's wrong with having a consistent experience that survives for more than 6 months? It's just a URL bar, and a bunch of tabs. Just leave it be already.
> Why does the UI change with every single Firefox release? It doesn't. Maybe small parts of it get tweaks here and there. But your argument about having to re-adjust every update is just dishonest.
For example, they just changed "Undo close tab" to "Reopen closed tab". Not only is it difficult to justify how this is clearer (any casual computer user should be familiar with the concept of 'undo'), but for a regular user:
- There's a period where you have to adjust, scanning for the correct menu entry each time;
- This change also modified the hotkey from 'u' for 'undo' to 'o' for... re-open, apparently.
Imagine if your editor changed its key bindings, or renamed features with each minor update?
I love Firefox, am a daily user, but I get very annoyed at the lack of proper change control that's applied.
This kind of arbitrary change at the very least annoys users, but can also degrade usability and workflow.
Finally, by showing they don't review their minor changes very well, it makes it harder to trust that they won't accidentally introduce some major bug or security flaw.
