Trials begin on lozenge that rebuilds tooth enamel • Hacker News Board

Re: Trials begin on lozenge that rebuilds tooth enamel

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Post by AppleCandy » Sun, May 30, 2021, 12:13 PM UTC

jcrben wrote: post #66

Weird teeth-cleaning trick that I discovered from suffering from interstitial cystitis / painful bladder syndrome (IC / BPS): toss a bit of baking soda in your water, such as 1 teaspoon per liter. It makes it alkaline. My teeth got whiter and felt better (less of a film feeling). Baking soda is used as a cooking ingredient and shouldn't be too risky, but don't go overboard... bit of discussion on the IC / BPS aspect…

I highly recommend everyone to keep in the bathroom cupboard a cup of baking soda submerged in water to make it paste-like. Rub a finger-tip's worth of wet baking soda over your tongue after you've flossed and brushed your teeth and tongue (tongue cleaning is important - I use my toothbrush). Then rinse mouth and teeth with this baking soda and saliva for a minute or so, before spitting out.

This is the most effective addition to a mouth cleansing routine I've found. I may apply this wet baking soda "paste" multiple times a day, especially after eating or when I feel a rise in mouth acidity. Also, when I happen to get acid reflux or know I'm going to throw up I pre-emptively keep baking soda in my mouth to protect my teeth from acidity.

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, May 30, 2021, 12:17 PM UTC

bachmeier wrote: post #39

Black101 wrote: post #2

Please get those crooked dentists out of work, as much as possible.

You're a rabid anti-dentite. Next thing you know you're saying they should have their own schools.

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Re: Trials begin on lozenge that rebuilds tooth enamel

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Post by rapjr9 » Sun, May 30, 2021, 12:55 PM UTC

_Microft wrote: post #72

jcrben wrote: post #66

Weird teeth-cleaning trick that I discovered from suffering from interstitial cystitis / painful bladder syndrome (IC / BPS): toss a bit of baking soda in your water, such as 1 teaspoon per liter. It makes it alkaline. My teeth got whiter and felt better (less of a film feeling). Baking soda is used as a cooking ingredient and shouldn't be too risky, but don't go overboard... bit of discussion on the IC / BPS aspect…

Is the water with baking soda meant for drinking or for brushing your teeth with?

My dentist said that chefs have a lot of problems with tooth decay since they do so much taste testing, so she recommends they keep a glass of water with some baking soda mixed in handy to rinse with after tasting.

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Post by graeme » Sun, May 30, 2021, 1:19 PM UTC

Hamuko wrote: post #31

> In addition, the researchers are investigating a gel or solution with the engineered peptide to treat hypersensitive teeth. This problem results from weakness in the enamel that makes the underlying dentin and nerves more vulnerable to heat or cold. Most common products currently on the market can put a layer of organic material on the tooth and numb nerve endings with potassium nitrate, but the relief is only temp…

Others gave you good advice. But you need to speak with a dentist and see if your teeth are in good health.

Some things I’ve tried that will help:

* Fitted mouth guard (splint). This reduces tooth wear and muscle pain

* Optirinse fluoride rinse. You can use this every day to reduce sensitivity

* Sensodyn with novamin. Remineralizes

* Face massage. I actually had a lot of tooth pain that was just referred pain. I grinded, my jaw tightened, this muscle tension hurt my teeth. When I pressed certain areas in my jaw and relaxed the muscle I felt the pain trigger, then dissipate. Some professional massage got rid of it fully.

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Post by rapjr9 » Sun, May 30, 2021, 1:24 PM UTC

user_50123890 wrote: post #272

sithadmin wrote: post #25

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It's sort of the opposite of a probiotic. In many organisms, including many non-human mammals, it short-circuits normal metabolic processes. Xylitol-sweetened products will easily sicken, and frequently kill cats and dogs, for instance.

You're not supposed to eat the xylitol, just get it onto your teeth. So use xylitol toothpaste.

There are Xylitol sprays also, advertised for moisturizing a dry mouth. Spray, swish, and spit it out and little will reach your intestinal microbiome. Best done right before a time when you won't be eating or drinking so the residue has some time to act on the bacteria on the teeth (e.g., right before a shower or before bed).

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Post by sabellito » Sun, May 30, 2021, 1:46 PM UTC

sebmellen wrote: post #208

sabellito wrote: post #197

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Well, we are talking about a possibly multi-million dollar product here. If Amazon were a bit less predatory perhaps keep 99% of the IP?

Amazon is a modern day Dutch East India Company. There’s no reason for them not to be predatory, given that they wield so much power.

I completely agree. Hopefully them doing this sparks the same initiative for other companies. Perhaps with some competition for talent the terms would be better.

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Post by 52-6F-62 » Sun, May 30, 2021, 1:57 PM UTC

Wistar wrote: post #92

Hamuko wrote: post #31

> In addition, the researchers are investigating a gel or solution with the engineered peptide to treat hypersensitive teeth. This problem results from weakness in the enamel that makes the underlying dentin and nerves more vulnerable to heat or cold. Most common products currently on the market can put a layer of organic material on the tooth and numb nerve endings with potassium nitrate, but the relief is only temp…

Although I haven't personally tried it, I have friends outside of the US that rave about Sensodyne Repair & Protect original with the "Powered by NovaMin" badging. NovaMin is composed of special ceramic particles that coat the teeth with a compound that reacts with the saliva to form a durable physical barrier. The problem is that the stuff with NovaMin is not typically available in the US. I just searched Amazon and…

Oh I need to try this. My enamel has been bad since I was a kid in spite of a great oral hygiene routine. Constant problems.

My dentist turned me on to Colgate Prevident and the regular Sensodyne fluoride pastes but never that one.

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Post by defaultname » Sun, May 30, 2021, 2:29 PM UTC

wodenokoto wrote: post #279

defaultname wrote: post #41

How does this compare with Sensodyne Repair and Protect? That product uses Novamin and effective rebuilds enamel, also offering whitening, reduced sensitivity, etc.

I asked my dentist about novamin after it trended on HN a few months ago. Apparently every toothpaste brand has a number of proprietary compounds that, according to their own research, is the biggest thing since flouride. Sensodyne has Novamin, I don't know the name of Colgates, but I am sure they list it on one of their websites. Why HN has taken to Novamin, I don't know. Maybe it is because it was taken off the Ame…

"Sensodyne has Novamin"

There is nothing like Novamin among other toothpaste brands. Novamin has long existed as a bone regeneration treatment, with a very proven mode of action. The inventor spun it off and GSK bought the company and made it exclusive to Sensodyne. This isn't a company that made some fun name on a method of fluoride.

It doesn't exist formally in the US (or at least it didn't) because FDA rules would make it fall under a medical treatment and a toothpaste isn't possibly worth the process and bureaucratic overhead.

>Anyway, it doesn't seem like Novamin makes a real difference

That is a study of studies, and its conclusion isn't that there is no "real difference", but that there is a need for more clinical trials, which is an enormous difference.

Because there is little demonstrated proof of Novamin specifically in regards to teeth. It is largely theoretical.

But for what it's worth, I've used it for a bit over a year and now have zero sensitivity and my teeth are demonstratably much whiter. My own anecdotal experience is very positive, though maybe I'll have throat cancer or a third eye or something eventually.

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Post by criddell » Sun, May 30, 2021, 2:46 PM UTC

ballballball wrote: post #158

reader_x wrote: post #129

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Can you describe more specifically where the Botox was injected? What muscle(s) did it paralyze?

We usually do masseter and temporalis muscles.

Any idea if it works for tinnitus?

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Post by tomcam » Sun, May 30, 2021, 3:02 PM UTC

mattlondon wrote: post #258

tomcam wrote: post #156

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I feel your pain, literally. No local anesthetic works at all for me. I need to be put under general anesthesia. Costs an extra $6000 or $7000.

I had the same for years, and eventually just said "get on with it" without any pain killers and basically just try to withstand the pain as much as possible. Eventually one dentist suggested trying the injection 15-20 mins before the filling started. I'd go in, get a jab, then go back out and wait while they saw another patient. Now there is no pain at all. I could literally fall asleep in the chair. What a differen…

Very cool! Doesn’t work for me.