I was really hoping this was going to be Yamaha announcing the first affordable, full-size e-bike, the Tesla 3 of two-wheelers. I guess we're still in the high performance slash high tech phase.
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#282Earlier quoted context omitted.
Their petrol motorbikes are absolutely wonderful machines, I can't wait for their transition into electric!
I'm not so sure, the engines are great but they cheap out on suspensions lately. I had an MT09 Tracer that was wobbly as f. in curves and on stright lines at high speed. The rear shock was just too loose. Same for the MT07 since 2014.
Try MT09 SP.
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#283Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn't louder == safer?
No, cars are isolated. Safe driving practices are safe. Like knowing the perception psychology that makes it hard for cars to see you and try to counter that. https://youtu.be/x94PGgYKHQ0
Cars are isolated? On a regular basis I drive 5 different cars, various makers, I can hear a Harley just fine in either.
And from every parked car where a driver has a conversation on speakers I can hear it so well they might as well have had it outside of their car. New Teslas, BMWs.
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#284It's neat to have all those powered degrees of freedom, but what problem does it solve? The BPG transforming bike [1] was a more promising direction. It could transform from a self-balancing Segway form for indoor and sidewalk use to a motorcycle form for roads. It looks like something from Transformers or the RideBack anime, but they got a prototype on the road. Now that had real potential. BPG never got that to to…
I think it's wonderful to see "pure R&D" these days. The days of Bell Labs, Xerox PARC, etc. are gone. Even NASA is so much more restrained.
Focus on practicality leads to incremental change. But free research and aspirational (maybe impractical) goals are what brought us the revolutionary technology we rely on today.
This is as kooky as Doug Englebart's team's work was at the time, and similar in the focus on the human/machine interface. Some aspect or later interpretation may stick just like Augment's ripples through the industry.
Startups can't do it. It takes large organizations to maintain the resources for long-term benefit like this. So I commend Yamaha for putting the cash into an impractical effort. I hope they keep it going. My kids may get something revolutionary out of it.
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I owned ride 6-7 different motorcycles, and I believe there's a special place in hell for those who put on loud aftermarket exhausts. Sure, it sounds nice to them . It shows an astonishing disregard to thousands of other people they impact daily. Let alone your next 10 neighbour houses who put up with it on consistent basis. ... :O There's no increased safety factor - there's no real location or distance clue such lo…
I always assumed that the point of loud vehicles was to assert dominance by being an asshole. If people are annoyed and upset then it is working exactly as intended. You have provoked an emotion that fuels your ego and image of yourself as a bad ass that doesn't care about other people.
I hope this is not in poor taste, but I find it pretty relevant to the discussion (and hilarious)
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#286Earlier quoted context omitted.
Except my PC doesn't wake up the neighborhood.
It might produce EMI though. (if we are picking nits)
Wow, downvoted into obscurity despite factual basis. Overclocking can in fact produce EMI.
I realize that audible noise is very readily recognized as harmful. It’s been studied and proven to be harmful, as have other forms of pollution. I think EMI affects less people directly but it’s still noise.
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#287I can’t wait for electric motorbikes to be more diverse and advanced. I used to be a “my loud exhaust helps me to be seen” kinda guy. Until one day, sat in standstill traffic in my car on the M74 motorway just outside Glasgow, a rider on a BMW S1000XR, with the same loud exhaust as on mine, filtered past the window and I didn’t hear him until he was level with my rear passenger door. Exhausts sound great, i love the…
Loud motorbikes should be forbidden. Period.
Not loud cars?
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Perhaps treating the other road users as people instead of derogatory terms like cagers would help. In addition, choosing a mode of transport which is literally 20 times more lethal per kilometer than driving is your responsibility. You can always choose to be a ‘cager’.
Motorcycles are lethal _because_ of cars. Blaming people for injuries are deaths caused by cars is the most discusting tactic the car industry has used to fight against road safety. Just look at any newspaper article about car drivers murdering children: they are always phrased as in "inattentive child was looking at his cellphone and died in a road". I find it incredible that walking on a street is illegal in parts…
In my country, in 90% of motorcycle deaths cars are not involved. It’s simply people going too fast or otherwise misjudge corners.
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#289I can’t wait for electric motorbikes to be more diverse and advanced. I used to be a “my loud exhaust helps me to be seen” kinda guy. Until one day, sat in standstill traffic in my car on the M74 motorway just outside Glasgow, a rider on a BMW S1000XR, with the same loud exhaust as on mine, filtered past the window and I didn’t hear him until he was level with my rear passenger door. Exhausts sound great, i love the…
Had a similar experience the other day on the highway. Traffic was doing ~85mph so I was too and got passed on both sides within inches of my side mirrors by a group of 8 or so people on racing bikes with loud exhausts doing at least 100mph. I didn't hear them/notice them until they were basically in my blind spots, it was very unsettling.
I also suspect that the bulk of exhaust noise is projected to the rear of the vehicle anyway, which makes it not especially useful as a "safety" feature if you are unsafely driving considerably faster than and weaving through traffic.
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#290I can’t wait for electric motorbikes to be more diverse and advanced. I used to be a “my loud exhaust helps me to be seen” kinda guy. Until one day, sat in standstill traffic in my car on the M74 motorway just outside Glasgow, a rider on a BMW S1000XR, with the same loud exhaust as on mine, filtered past the window and I didn’t hear him until he was level with my rear passenger door. Exhausts sound great, i love the…
> Exhausts sound great, i love the sound of a nice engine, it’s utterly intoxicating Loud motorcycle engines are the sound of the world’s hugest assholes making their giant fart in the public’s face.
I think the only asshole here is you. You can enjoy riding HD without being an asshole. Big engines are loud, they need to breathe. People like you are the ones who promote cancel culture. Anything that is of slight annoyance to you must be banned. No tolerance.