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Temptation of the Apple: Dolphin on macOS M1

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Post by G3rn0ti »

bri3d wrote: post #103
G3rn0ti wrote: post #18

The real challenge is running F-Zero GX. I’d love to see some benchmarks for this game — the hardest game to emulate.

By what metric? AFAIK the Factor 5 games, especially Rogue Squadron III, are considered the most challenging, both due to their obscure tricks (iirc Rogue Squadron uploads an outdated audio microcode to get a "loop counter" feature back which no other games use, for example) and most complete use of the MMU mechanisms (I believe they even use the ARAM as swap transparently to the game engine, using some goofy allocat…

> Rogue Squadron III

Ok, never played that game. I’ll better try not to play that on my ancient Intel powered laptop ...

Different games run differently well on Dolphin if you got older hardware. While Mario Kart Double Dash runs perfectly fine in full screen, „F-Zero GX“ suffers massive slowdown in some levels on my 7 years old CPU/GPU combination. Interestingly, both games employ the „heated air“ effect on similarly looking levels — but still I got 40 FPS vs. 60 FPS in that case. I wouldn’t mind but the sound needs to be in sync with the graphics subsystem on the Game Cube — audio is broken with even slightly slower frame rates, unfortunately.

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Post by bigfudge »

anoncake wrote: post #244
Someone wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Especially since Apple markets the iPad as a "computer" Do they? I don’t follow their ads closely, but I can’t find the word “computer” on https://www.apple.com/ipad-pro/ (given the 8tneractivity on that page, it still may be there, but I tried looking hard, and couldn’t find it), and they have an explicit ad saying “iPad Pro — Your next computer is not a computer” ( https://youtube.com/watch?v=09_QxCcBEyU ) Can yo…

If an iPad Pro can be your next computer, it must be a computer.

I think that quote actually emphasises that Apple describes iPads as not really computers... it only works as an ad line if it’s counter intuitive

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Post by lern_too_spel »

zepto wrote: post #133
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #107

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>openness at the expense of security This is a false dilemma. You can have both.

Although I totally think open source should attempt to produce an ecosystem with the security of Apple’s ecosystem, there is no evidence that this is even theoretically possible.

According to Gartner and the exploit markets, open source has surpassed iOS's security for a few years now.

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Post by lern_too_spel »

enraged_camel wrote: post #181
ActorNightly wrote: post #167

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I still dont get how people pretend Apple cares about privacy. By default Apple devices phone home and collect data on you, and this is not optional, and they will hand that data to law enforcement. They also have the ability to change their data handling policieson a whim since there is nobody holding them accountable. THIS IS NOT PRIVACY. Not that windows or android devices are better as they come out of the box, b…

This is a lot of FUD. Yes, Apple devices do collect some data and phone it home (mostly diagnostic, and iCloud, both of which can be turned off). However, unlike their competitors, Apple does not sell this data to advertisers. And they are just as likely to refuse to work with law enforcement as they are likely to cooperate. How many times has LE demanded that Apple break the encryption on the iPhone of a crime suspe…

Apple handed the keys to the castle to the Chinese government. Google collects data from iPhones as well as Android devices (including non-Google Android devices like Amazon's and Huawei's). The difference is that on Android, you can turn off any data collection you don't like. On iOS, if you want to install an app, you have to tell Apple. If you want to get your location, you have to tell Apple. If you want to build an app for your own device, you have to tell Apple a lot of things about yourself.

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Post by selectodude »

oceanplexian wrote: post #276
enraged_camel wrote: post #181

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This is a lot of FUD. Yes, Apple devices do collect some data and phone it home (mostly diagnostic, and iCloud, both of which can be turned off). However, unlike their competitors, Apple does not sell this data to advertisers. And they are just as likely to refuse to work with law enforcement as they are likely to cooperate. How many times has LE demanded that Apple break the encryption on the iPhone of a crime suspe…

Apple could start selling ads tomorrow and simply change the terms of service, which they have a right to. In that case the last N years of data they have been collecting on you is fair game to sell to third parties. Is Google a worse example, sure. But plenty of us have been around long enough to remember when Google was restructured into Alphabet and the “Don’t be evil” motto was wiped from their corporate code of…

But the key thing is that with Apple, you're generally the customer. I pay a huge amount of money for an iPhone and Apple wants me to pay a huge amount of money for another iPhone in the future. Google develops Android for free and as such, I, the consumer, am not Google's customer. It's simply a different business model. Apple could change their approach and in response I can change mine. Google could also set up a method for me to purchase Android.

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Post by bpye »

myrandomcomment wrote: post #274
anoncake wrote: post #241

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I don't think anyone would mind if Apple offered two -- otherwise identical -- versions of each Iphone: One locked down and one not. Or Iphones could be unlocked by default but you can pay extra to have them permanently locked. People would pay for that if locking down their phones actually provides value to them.

Why would they? It is more work. It is 2 code paths to write, to test and plan for. There is a cost associated with this that will not likely be recovered in any reasonable price difference on the phone versions.

I would be surprised if Apple don’t already have something like this internally…

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Post by aptgetrekt »

philistine wrote: post #42
jeroenhd wrote: post #24

It's clear AS is a great advancement in general computing, but every piece like this reads as "the hardware is amazing, and it's totally worth it to work around these arbitrary software restrictions". This performance would've been available on iPads years ago if it wasn't for Apple's blanket ban on JIT and the likes. Apple is one of those companies whose hardware I'd love to have if it wasn't for their software and…

It’s undeniable that a whole class of ARM software was prevented from even being conceived because it has to pass the App Store’s Byzantine set of rules. On the other hand, I see so many software developers vehemently refuse to notarize their Mac versions. Notarization is far less egregious and it pains me to see so many straight up refuse to even consider it as an alternative to the iron grip of the App Store.

I make a free mac utility and would be fine with notarizing it if it wasn't $100 a year. I don't want to pay $100 a year to give away something for free. And the message that pops up telling users to "contact the developer" because "the app needs to be updated" is just infuriating. To me it feels like Apple asking users of unnotarized apps to bug developers into paying Apple that $100 a year.

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Post by jezfromfuture »

fooqux wrote: post #44
threeseed wrote: post #32

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Apple’s blanket ban on interpreted code is not arbitrary. It is there to prevent apps circumventing the review process and security model ie. apps pretending to do X during the review process and then doing Y when in use or obfuscating their use of private APIs. Now you can argue these restrictions are unreasonable but many of us don’t want our iPads or iPhones to be like our computers.

> many of us don’t want our iPads or iPhones to be like our computers And many of us do . I would never buy a locked-down piece of hardware like that. But I don't think it matters either way what either side wants, because it's what Apple wants that matters. They want to keep their walled garden's walls air tight, and there are apparently enough people that are OK living in that garden that it works. I'm positive tha…

Yes Google calculated that users privacy means jack , users security means jack but as long as you can do what you want on ur phone and they can siphon off your data it’s all good.

Hate apple as much as u like but I’m very happy they lock the shit down and don’t turn it into my pc , my phone is for calls an texts privacy is important running bullshit is not.

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Post by dataangel »

threeseed wrote: post #32
jeroenhd wrote: post #24

It's clear AS is a great advancement in general computing, but every piece like this reads as "the hardware is amazing, and it's totally worth it to work around these arbitrary software restrictions". This performance would've been available on iPads years ago if it wasn't for Apple's blanket ban on JIT and the likes. Apple is one of those companies whose hardware I'd love to have if it wasn't for their software and…

Apple’s blanket ban on interpreted code is not arbitrary. It is there to prevent apps circumventing the review process and security model ie. apps pretending to do X during the review process and then doing Y when in use or obfuscating their use of private APIs. Now you can argue these restrictions are unreasonable but many of us don’t want our iPads or iPhones to be like our computers.

> It is there to prevent apps circumventing the review process and security model ie. apps pretending to do X during the review process and then doing Y when in use

Doing this is still dead simple and in no way requires a JIT.

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Post by novok »

dnh44 wrote: post #177
tw04 wrote: post #129

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>If you do that, guess what Fortnite would do right now. Guess what Facebook would do to get around Apple’s privacy restrictions right now. Guess what a ex-boyfriend would do right now to install a blocked spying app. I guess I don't get your point, if a user wants to sideload fortnite or facebook, good for them? If an ex-boyfriend has your phone and your password you've probably got bigger issues than whether or not…

>I guess I don't get your point, if a user wants to sideload fortnite or facebook, good for them? This will result in a few "must have" apps being side-loaded to start, and finish with people having to reinstall their phone operating systems every 6 months; to the detriment of the vast majority of users. Do you not remember what the computers of regular people were like in the late 90's and early 2000's? I remember p…

You could do this with android phones for +10 years, android is ~+%80 of the smartphone market and this does not happen in practice.
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