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Post by devmunchies »

zozbot234 wrote: post #278
devmunchies wrote: post #247

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> Why guilt? GP made it seem like whites being a big part of current techno scene is bad. > The first stuff anyone started calling techno was pretty black you could say the first stuff anyone started calling electronic music was pretty white. point is, racial attribution for something that has a huge array of influences is silly. > unheard of racial unity going on yes, the way it should be.

This article is about techno specifically, not electronic music. There's a lot of electronic music that has nothing to do with techno - techno is a genre, like chiptune, trance or dubstep.

> As part of Beatportal’s new series on the history of electronic dance music, Marcus Barnes explores the rich history of techno, from the 1970s right through to today.

it's a series about electronic music history.

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Post by spiralx »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #274
spiralx wrote: post #270

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Hah, I bet, watching people dancing to it in Boiler Room videos is different enough from what I'm used to, and that's got to be a lot tamer than you'd see somewhere without cameras filming the entire thing! The first time I saw this clip it was amazing how distant it was from everything I've experienced since going to my first club in 1995 - and the video is from closer to 1995 than 1995 is to today! https://www.yout…

Electro was my thing back then. But I think I'd tire of a whole gig of just Model 500. The DEMF dancefloor vibe while the booty stuff was playing was... raunchy. Like full on grinding, ass rubbing, etc. Didn't see that stuff at clubs here. The rave/club/techno scene back then here was pretty androgynous and public displays of affection would have been very gauche. Not so in Detroit at certain gigs

First time I saw DJ Godfather they had DJ Stingray play before him and I enjoyed that style of modern harder electro a lot more, if only because the production was so much better :)

The scene here was neither androgynous nor restrained in the public displaying of affection - but overtly sexual displays were very much in the minority and stood out, probably because British people loved being able to shed our passively-aggressive polite and emotionally stunted personas for an evening by consuming large amounts of pills and just wanting to dance and hug people ;)

I've seen some full-on stuff at squat parties though. Ecstasy and alcohol can make people completely lose their inhibitions lol.

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Post by dkobia »

I love techno / house music. I’ve been unable to shake it since I caught the bug many many years ago in Kenya. It came as a pleasant surprise and shock to meet Carl Craig at thanksgiving some years back. My wife neglected to mention he was her cousin — real Detroit House music royalty. They understand he’s big somehow but all that is lost because techno and house are not considered “American” or “black” music for that matter. I’ve had the pleasure of hanging out on stage with Carl watching him do his thing which I could have never imagined happening.

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Post by golemiprague »

wolverine876 wrote: post #279

Some thoughts from someone who was there, on the fringe of it: Detroit: is a land of wondrous musical invention, just new trends but whole new paradigms over and over, and it's never credited: Motown, of course; Punk (Iggy Pop & the Stooges, MC5 - name earlier punk!); Funkadelic (George Clinton et al); and Techno. At their heart they are creative, artistic, non-commercial (Motown being a big exception to the latter).…

It is not what "poeple associate with black kids", it is what it was and what it is, most black kids are not middle class. The black community first and foremost were the one to adopt hiphop as their "voice".

In general, all types of electronic music thrived in Europe rather than in the US, house, techno, trans, even dub/regeae/jungle etc. not necessarly just the black middle class music.

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Post by jamal-kumar »

devmunchies wrote: post #277
wolverine876 wrote: post #265

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> GP made it seem like whites being a big part of current techno scene is bad. I don't see that; I don't see any "guilt", using your word. Can you point it out? People have other motives. My impression is that you brought your own (reactionary?) bias to it, using a reactionary talking point whether it really applies or not. Why bring down someone who is trying to expand their experiences, knowledge, and community, in…

This confuses the heck out of me. I saw my comment as the more inclusive. > using a reactionary talking point ???

im gonna start a music project called sounding fun at techno parties

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Post by you_know_the_ »

layoutIfNeeded wrote: post #240
you_know_the_ wrote: post #162

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Cercle channel on YouTube puts out some great techno shows. They go to historical places and record a set with some of the best djs Here is the link for Pan-Pot set https://youtu.be/hENgrbIMiy4

lol, the linked video is not techno but some pretty bland tech-house...

The entire set is combination of experimental techno, tech-house and techno

Enjoy the music instead of going around and barking like a mad dog

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Post by randy909 »

devmunchies wrote: post #277
wolverine876 wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> GP made it seem like whites being a big part of current techno scene is bad. I don't see that; I don't see any "guilt", using your word. Can you point it out? People have other motives. My impression is that you brought your own (reactionary?) bias to it, using a reactionary talking point whether it really applies or not. Why bring down someone who is trying to expand their experiences, knowledge, and community, in…

This confuses the heck out of me. I saw my comment as the more inclusive. > using a reactionary talking point ???

Your reaction is akin to saying "all lives matter" in response to the Black Lives Matter movement. You can look up why it's wrong.

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Post by kristopolous »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #269
kristopolous wrote: post #257

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That whole movement was kinda self contained. Early 2000s Central Europe. There's a party drug contribution that's really instrumental to these movements. I have been thinking of how to do a musical taxonomy by narcotic, but it's hard to do without making everyone sound like a junkie. New Beat and MDMA, Disco and cocaine, freeform Jazz and heroine, etc. (I'm a big fan of all of these btw, and could likely make you wa…

Yea, that Swedish techno and its offshoots ... it was/is amphetamine music. That's my jerky opinion anyways. Boom-tss, boom-ts, fist pump

oh that makes sense. I forgot about meth.

Mostly it's me not understanding why so many people are captivated, excited and enthralled by something that sounds so caustic and abrasive.

It's admittedly extremely arrogant for me to say "well they must be on drugs because ahem, I am perfect." but you see parties starting at around midnight and going until 4pm the next day, there's something up with that.

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Post by piva00 »

tomduncalf wrote: post #237

Cool to see so much discussion about techno on here! I’ve been a huge dance music fan/nerd ever since I was a teenager and techno is my favourite genre, particularly the deeper and more hypnotic varieties. Check out Donato Dozzy’s 2008 Labyrinth set for an idea of what I mean, it blew my mind at the time (still does) and redefined my musical tastes quite a lot: https://soundcloud.com/user-602354628/sets/dozzy-labyrin…

I felt the same, it was super nice to open HN and see so many comments on a techno thread.

Not sure if a Discord would be helpful as might need a critical mass to not get abandoned... But I would love to have a place with people from HN to chat techno, feel that could take me to music discussions I haven't had yet, the crowd here is quite interesting.

From my personal background, I've always liked dance music, got more into it when I was 17-18 in Brazil when the psytrance/Goa trance raves were huge. Got tired of the trance scene after a couple of years and went to check out house parties, those took me to techno which grappled me very, very hard.

There is something about techno, this feeling of techy tribal music, the psychedelic repetition and playing just with textures and timbres of sounds to make "music", that attracts me in a deep way.

So deep that about 2.5 years ago I decided I would try to learn making electronic music, not only techno but it was definitely the initial goal. Since then I've discovered a whole new universe and language, I didn't ever think I'd be able to learn music, had a lot of preconceptions while growing up thinking that it was an innate talent and/or you needed to start early in life.

Techno has not given me many, many special moments, not only at parties but with the community, with the friends I've made (and some that I keep to this day, more than a decade later) but also a complete new experience trying to create something akin to art, haha.

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