India’s second wave

Post by sudosysgen » Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 8:33 PM UTC

habibur wrote: post #228

gilbetron wrote: post #224

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The point isn't to do it for a year, but to do it for 2-3 weeks in a very strict manner. If you prepare for it, and then do it every time the spread starts going exponential, then you can keep the numbers incredibly low until vaccines are distributed.

That's a dream. Money don't feed people. Foods do. And human activity necessary to feed a billion people sitting at home will require another billion to do the production, distribution and organization in a timely manner. And the whole point of lockdown was to prevent people from performing these movements. I don't see a good solution here.

Post by sudosysgen » Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 8:35 PM UTC

nradov wrote: post #253

devonbleak wrote: post #235

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Not with that attitude it's not. It's not that they can't afford it - it's that they're unwilling to actually leverage the wealth of their country to do it. I seriously don't understand the thinking that resources are still so scarce that an entire country like India somehow can't afford to meet the basic needs of its people (let alone the US). If the resources exist you figure out how to get them to the people that…

Redistributing wealth won't help if the store shelves are empty. People have to be out there working and making stuff or else we won't have any stuff.

Post by ridethebike » Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 8:37 PM UTC

sgt101 wrote: post #265

lucian1900 wrote: post #207

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Precisely. What you described is exactly what happened in China and Vietnam: one short strict lockdown while taking care of people's material necessities. Unsurprisingly, both countries have eliminated community transmission.

This is a naive reading of what has happened. There may well be some cross immunity in some communities due to previous coronavirus circulations. And the numbers in China are not all that credible - one guy at my work had three of four grandparents die of "some winter cold" in March last year. It will be quite some time before the numbers in China become clear I think.

Post by grecy » Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 8:40 PM UTC

makomk wrote: post #276

grecy wrote: post #256

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At 1,721 deaths per million of population, if Texas were a country it would be the 16th worst on the planet. Ranking 16th worst out of 198 is not an enviable or "good" place to be. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?new https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/texas/

It's a fairly typical place for a western country to be at this stage of the pandemic. Because of the way the disease spread via inter-country travel from, mostly, Italy and surrounding countries, the developed western world was hit first - and because people have to be tested in order for their deaths to be recorded as Covid-19 related, only countries with a reasonably well-developed healthcare system and economy ac…

Post by sgt101 » Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 8:43 PM UTC

ridethebike wrote: post #285

sgt101 wrote: post #265

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This is a naive reading of what has happened. There may well be some cross immunity in some communities due to previous coronavirus circulations. And the numbers in China are not all that credible - one guy at my work had three of four grandparents die of "some winter cold" in March last year. It will be quite some time before the numbers in China become clear I think.

I think if China didn't manage coronavirus successfully we'd have seen numbers of deaths due to "some winter cold" so large that even communist party wouldn't be able to hide