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New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by pdimitar »

shaolinspirit wrote: post #260
pdimitar wrote: post #223

And THAT will make me finally replace my MacBook Pro 2015. No touch bar, MagSafe, good amount of ports. The iPhone 12-esque design is a good bonus too (I like it more than all others before it). Only took 5-6 years but I am again excited about MacBooks.

lol, I was thinking I'm the only one sitting with my 2015 macpro ^_^ love this laptop, however it got super slow and the battery life is almost zero, which is fine after almost 4 years of serving.

Oh, there's plenty of us out there holding on to the last sensible MacBook that Apple has made.

I really want this rumor to be true. It would mean that Apple finally got through its phase of trying to appeal to non-professionals -- or professionals with looser ergonomic requirements.

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Post by Joeri »

emptyparadise wrote: post #208
underseacables wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The giant trackpad seemed like Apple wanted people to use the MacBook like an iPad, which still doesn’t make sense.

Why can't they just put in a touch screen? Is it purely pride at this point?

A touch screen serves a different role than a trackpad. They could replace the trackpad by a touch screen, like asus’s screenpad, but that comes at the expense of battery life.

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Post by minimaxir »

square_usual wrote: post #38

I know it's from Kuo, but these leaks don't pass the smell test for me. It makes no sense for them to add the touchbar to the base model 13" MBPs only to remove them from the higher end versions. It makes even less sense to add more ports which aren't USB-C, as the bits about MagSafe and no dongles imply. Further, I don't understand what is meant by "iPhone 12 like" non-curvy design - I have a 2018 MBP 15", and the s…

Bloomberg is matching the rumors.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-15/apple-mac...

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Post by revscat »

kristiandupont wrote: post #172
toomanybeersies wrote: post #164

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I think HN is a bit unfairly biased against the touchbar, since it serves almost zero purpose for programming work. However, it's quite handy when doing multimedia work with applications that integrate with the touchbar (Logic Pro, Final Cut Pro, Photoshop)

Is this your experience or your assumption? I was personally very excited when they announced the touchbar but having lived with it for 5 years now, I hate it. And I do a lot of media work, mostly in Ableton Live but also Adobe Lightroom and others. I just bought a new Macbook Air and I was very happy that the feature of not having the bar was cheaper as it was something I would have gladly paid money for.

I don’t hate it, I just ignore it. Most of the time my laptop is closed and attached to my monitor, so it’s unavailable. On the rare occasions I use it as a laptop, I might use the Touch Bar to adjust the volume, but not much else, if anything.

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Post by totalZero »

matt-attack wrote: post #221
adrr wrote: post #59

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It will probably be physical keys with screens in them. As seen in this patent. https://www.macrumors.com/2020/12/29/apple-researching-keybo... Mag safe is going to be on the charging cable and not the computer. Like on old game consoles with wired controllers.

It seems clear to me that they're going to incorporate the exact same Mag Safe charger as they did on the iPhone 12. Same magnetic paddle, but it will attach to the lid or the back or something.

The only problem I see with your concept:

A single iPhone MagSafe charger pushes 15w on a great day. A MBP is going to draw about four times that.

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Post by jws »

chx wrote: post #270

It's not fully impossible to build an up-to-specs magnetic USB C connector, it just hasn't happened yet. I am 100% if anyone ever pulls it off, it'll be Apple. https://twitter.com/USBCGuy/status/1186718432932159488 > No, because per the spec, and current technological limitations, there is no way to do a proper connector and logic board. > It might be possible some day with active electronics, and special electroopti…

They could put all the USB C logic required for power negotiation in the molded connector of a USB C cable and expose 5 contacts on the magnetic side of the connector. [gnd-pwr-data-pwr-gnd] that lets you plug it in either way.

You would then have a cable that was USB C PD on one end and MagSafe on the other. You could carry your USB-MagSafe cable and still use any USB C power source, or bring one with if you like.

It isn't a full USB C with it's score of hair thin wires, but it lets you have some beefy power and ground contacts and enough I/O to chat about voltages, currents, and what color an LED might want to be.

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Post by minitoar »

zlsa wrote: post #261
minitoar wrote: post #235

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I mean...an extra 50 watts maybe? Not great but doesn’t seem like a huge deal.

How hot does a 50-watt incandescent lightbulb get? That's what an extra 50 watts of wasted power will feel like.

My house is cold, the extra heat is welcome here. I only have electric heat.

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Post by kube-system »

BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #266
wlesieutre wrote: post #252

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My favorite part of my touchbar MBP is that it uses USB-C charging. MagSafe is neat, but I don't miss the $80 proprietary charger with a cable that's fixed to the brick and will probably fail if you do anything other than leave it sitting at a desk. Could this be talking about an iPhone 12 style magsafe with a large pad? Not sure how that would work, you'd have to set your computer on top of it to have enough contact…

> MagSafe is neat, but I don't miss the $80 proprietary charger with a cable that's fixed to the brick No law of physics requires a cable with a magnet on one end to not be detachable from the brick on the other end. So while I too do not lament that the cable is no longer affixed to the bricks, I would like Apple to make a magsafe cable that is just not attached that is also not shitty (all those third party USBC at…

Physics might not, but the tech spec might.

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Post by wlesieutre »

BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #266
wlesieutre wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My favorite part of my touchbar MBP is that it uses USB-C charging. MagSafe is neat, but I don't miss the $80 proprietary charger with a cable that's fixed to the brick and will probably fail if you do anything other than leave it sitting at a desk. Could this be talking about an iPhone 12 style magsafe with a large pad? Not sure how that would work, you'd have to set your computer on top of it to have enough contact…

> MagSafe is neat, but I don't miss the $80 proprietary charger with a cable that's fixed to the brick No law of physics requires a cable with a magnet on one end to not be detachable from the brick on the other end. So while I too do not lament that the cable is no longer affixed to the bricks, I would like Apple to make a magsafe cable that is just not attached that is also not shitty (all those third party USBC at…

The other important aspect of USB-C versus MagSafe is that I have USB-C cables hooked up on charges all around my apartment. There's a multi-port charger at my desk, one in the living room, and another in my bedroom. Laptop uses the same charging cable from these as my iPad does. Sometimes I hook another charger up in my kitchen if I'm using my iPad for recipes and want to charge it while I cook. There's another a USB-C charger that lives in my bag, along with a USB-C cable which can also charge my iPad and a power bank.

Even if they make this a new cable with USB-C on one end and NewMagSafe on the other, it'd mean buying a whole bunch of new cables if I wanted to actually use it. And I'd need to buy a whole bunch of chargers too, because the ones I have are mainly a single USB-C port and a couple USB-A ports.

If they want to make yet another proprietary charging cable, fine. I don't really care as long as USB-C charging is still supported.

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