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70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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When you purposefully leak private data, you no longer get to hide behind the title "Security Researcher".

Would it be any better if it was sent to Wikileaks and published there?

Wikileaks would never publish anything that hurts authoritarian cause, so it's highly hypothetical.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would it be any better if it was sent to Wikileaks and published there?

Yes, because WikiLeaks is very diligent in scrubbing sensitive private information from leaks.

Didn't WikiLeaks publish the decryption key for the Manning leaks and all the unredacted messages got into the wild?

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Where are the comments about how awful it is for people's private messages to be leaked? Or is this okay because the media told me these guys are the bad guys.

> media told me I create a Parler account myself out of curiosity's sake. The platform had basically no moderation, and was rife with open calls to violence. It was absolutely serving as a recruitment & coordination site for domestic terrorism.

And now information about your account has been leaked, and will be lumped in with more nefarious accounts. I have a feeling that a significant number of people have similarly made accounts out of curiosity. I've had my parents and some less technically inclined friends recently ask me what Parler is because it's been in the news. These aren't people that fall under the alt-right categorization in the slightest, and they're also not people who would think to use fake information if they were signing up for something to see what it is like.

Even if the platform had terrible and dangerous content on it, we should avoid assuming that everybody on it supported that content, and we shouldn't celebrate their personal information being leaked.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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post #118

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I'm not gonna lie: I find it very difficult to be upset by this when the site was a haven for people who want to mass executions for people like me. For me, the world is a little more complex than "privacy at all costs." It's hard to decide where to draw the line.

My impressions is that everyone whinging about privacy with regards to giving seditionists and terrorists a space to coordinate and share misinformation after the biggest attack on the US since 9/11 are just being contrarian or are absolutist to a fault in their libertarian ideals (which I mostly share). People minimizing this attack and not treating it like a legitimate 9/11 scale crisis for the US are not consideri…

Where you are going wrong is that none of what you say demands a hack or a data dump.

Get warrants, subpoenas, etc., and go after those inciting riots/sedition.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

#286

Where are the comments about how awful it is for people's private messages to be leaked? Or is this okay because the media told me these guys are the bad guys.

Just call everyone a terrorist and absolve your soul of any uneasiness you have with this. Surely this hyperbole hasn't been used in recent history to push authoritarian and unethical measures by state and private actors paving a golden road to hell.

Well what is your suggested response? I think the lack of calling out terrorism and fascism in this country have already resulted four years of "pushing authoritarian and unethical measures" by the US executive.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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post #170

Wiki says Parler is a team of 30 people, So realistically, does that mean like 10 devs running a social network with 5-10 million users? I imagine its pretty ceazy there right now after getting booted off AWS, google just banned u off play store, so cant use them, i assume they cant use microsoft because theyll ban them there as well, it would be cool to see if they are able to get things up and running again. (Ive n…

I was thinking about it this morning. They probably didn't have an easy time finding new employees too because of the nature and controversy associated with the site, potentially part of the reason for lack of moderation. Not defending, just observing. It's interesting from a business/development perspective when it comes to rapid scale and team size.

> They probably didn't have an easy time finding new employees too because of the nature and controversy associated with the site, potentially part of the reason for lack of moderation.

Parler established itself as a "free speech" social network platform. Part of its objective, based on that principle, was minimal or no moderation. Ironically, of course, they banned many people who came in with left-wing views. Which means they actually worked to create the extremist bubble that is now causing them problems with others.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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post #202

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To be fair, it's probably hard for a network like Parler to attract top talent. I mean, they explicitly advertised themselves as the "free speech social network" (i.e. "all hate speech welcome, we won't censor anyone except maybe Trump parody accounts") - would you want to work for such a company, or have it on your resume in the future?

Yes? I wouldn't work for Parler, but I fail to see how the phrase "free speech social network" should elicit some negative emotion. Parler sucks because they are a haven to right wing extremists, not because of their marketing. Its like being angry at Signal because their encryption allows terrorists communicate securely.

The description "free speech social network" is very heavily associated with far right extremists.

Much like, for example, the gadsden flag.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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post #161

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I'm surprised to see how many people can not think for themselves but follow what media is telling them. I hope I don't do that myself but try to understand the matter and follow principles rather than sides. What I'm surprised the most is that with these complex and not obvious questions (at least to me) people without any shadow of a doubt are certain that it is right for big tech to censor Trump, shut down parler…

You are currently witnessing the result of defunding humanities in favor of technical education.

The humanities departments are where the cheering of this is the loudest.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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post #116

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Just call everyone a terrorist and absolve your soul of any uneasiness you have with this. Surely this hyperbole hasn't been used in recent history to push authoritarian and unethical measures by state and private actors paving a golden road to hell.

Its also complete accident that there is now a 20000 page "Patriot Act 2.0" being pushed as a solution.

Links or is this FUD.
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