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Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Post by tedmcory77 »

DJPocari wrote: post #187

Where do we draw the line on how we censor the internet? Obviously actual terrorist group sites can and should be taken down, but this feels like it's getting more murky than that. - Should we be okay with Facebook censoring these groups? - Should we be okay with Google censoring search results? - Should we be okay with Apple censoring apps? - Should we be okay with AWS censoring websites? - Should we be okay with Go…

"Obviously actual terrorist group sites can and should be taken down, but this feels more murky than that."

§ 2384. According to the statutory definition of sedition, it is a crime for two or more people within the jurisdiction of the United States: ... To oppose by force the authority of the United States government; to prevent, hinder, or delay by force the execution of any law of the United States; or.

Terrorists.

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Post by nostromo »

brink wrote: post #211

Why do these companies suddenly now care about enforcing the mantra of the integrity of the electoral system now, and not in 2016? Why do these companies suddenly now care about sites hosting content that encourages violent activity now, and not in June?

Because the Democrats have the presidency, senate, and house.

Corporations have been sucking up to the powerful since forever.

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Post by Delmania »

jpxw wrote: post #23

Regardless of your political persuasion, you should be concerned about this. Massive multinational corporations having this much power over our speech is not healthy. If they can do this to a sitting President of the US, they can do it to every single one of us.

Parler was created in response to Twitter banning several far right personalities. People are more than capable of overcoming the big tech companies and finding ways to get their message out. Maybe the leader of a nation shouldn’t continually question an election and encourage his supporters to commit insurrection?

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Post by throwarayes »

I think the interesting test here might be whether a tool like Twitter could still be on AWS during an event like the Arab Spring to coordinate against repressive regimes. Or if those regimes could also claim the same “incites violence” exception and ask AWS to disable the service.

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Post by jedberg »

cheeze wrote: post #156

Regardless of my/your thoughts on Parler, godspeed to those engineers. Assuming a majority of Parler infra is hosted on AWS, and it wasn't built to be multi-cloud, moving hosting providers in ~36 hours seems like a herculean task.

Or they could just change their product to require approval of all posts until they get their moderation under control, and then not get kicked off of Amazon...

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Post by CryptoGhost »

blhack wrote: post #215

Are all of the people here who are saying that parler is full of all sorts of bad things actually on the website, or are you just sortof assuming that? I went to go look at the site, and it requires me to sign in to do anything, and that requires a phone number. I don't want to give them my phone number. Have you guys all seriously gone and signed up for accounts, given these people your phone number, and actually go…

It's a fair distinction. Applications that have private messaging systems that have exchanged all sorts of bad / illegal content to parties haven't been cancelled by their hosts or held up to such high moderation standards.

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Post by sbinthree »

ve55 wrote: post #246

It was only two hours ago when I wrote: "I'm curious if this will also escalate to low-level platforms (will hosting companies, registrars, or even ISPs start taking similar actions on a regular basis?)" when Apple removed the app, following Google Play from yesterday. It would seem this cycle is certainly not done perpetuating itself as of yet. I think we are going to have some rough times ahead of us unfortunately.…

I was wondering if you were online to see it and thinking about that comment. I was really surprised to read that, AWS is another level beyond social media de-platforming. Wouldn't there be other harmful things hosted on AWS? Who governs this?

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Post by mynameishere »

DJPocari wrote: post #187

Where do we draw the line on how we censor the internet? Obviously actual terrorist group sites can and should be taken down, but this feels like it's getting more murky than that. - Should we be okay with Facebook censoring these groups? - Should we be okay with Google censoring search results? - Should we be okay with Apple censoring apps? - Should we be okay with AWS censoring websites? - Should we be okay with Go…

They will never draw the line. Even at an extreme, after the bodies of their enemies are in mass graves, they will still need to control the historians for hundreds or thousands of years. Crazy? Ask an average person how many people died in the Holocaust and they will get the number about 6 million too low.

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Post by ceejayoz »

blhack wrote: post #215

Are all of the people here who are saying that parler is full of all sorts of bad things actually on the website, or are you just sortof assuming that? I went to go look at the site, and it requires me to sign in to do anything, and that requires a phone number. I don't want to give them my phone number. Have you guys all seriously gone and signed up for accounts, given these people your phone number, and actually go…

Screenshot examples aren't hard to come by. 30 seconds of searching Twitter:

https://twitter.com/StanCollymore/status/1347969923289657344

https://twitter.com/Olivia_Beavers/status/134795743412035174...

https://twitter.com/parlertakes/status/1347050705110986753

The @parlertakes account is a gold mine for it, if you're genuinely interested.

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