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Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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Very often your residential connection is sold as proxy to e.g. circumvent rate limits. Companies like luminati are used for example for scraping google search results and many more things.

My startup offers a residential IP sharing model where users get paid to share their bandwidth: https://packetstream.io

I'm using your service (found it on HN too) for a side project and I'm very happy with it. Good job!

One nitpick: I'm seeing occasional timeouts (probably because the residential endpoint went down recently). Do you have a best practice on how to work around that?

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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> I made about $20k a month and it paid my bills through college. Lord man, what kind of bills were these?

If he lived in California, he'd only be taking home 10K a month. Tuition, room and board at Stanford would take most of the rest.

"only" 10k a month

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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Wait, you were making $20,000 a MONTH, and you gave it up? I don't understand.

There's a lot to be said about the anxiety of "I'm making a lot of money doing something I don't understand". I've backed out of businesses where I could have been a millionaire but also could have been in prison for violating some law/regulation that I knew nothing about. It starts feeling like you're running a scam.

This wasn't a could have, this was a going to be a millionaire in 5 years. No school costs THAT much. I'd have dropped out immediately and hired someone who DID know wtf they were doing.

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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You can’t run an email server on ipv6, as most email service providers still use IP blocklists to score spam. Blocklists on IPv6 are not feasible.

You can. Gmail and Migadu both support IPv6: aspmx.l.google.com. 293 IN AAAA 2a00:1450:400c:c07::1b aspmx1.migadu.com. 600 IN AAAA 2001:41d0:2:4a6f:: IP blacklists are possible for IPv6 based email. I have heard many work by blacklisting the /64 or bigger subnet. Sometimes also adjacent subnets. Perhaps with SPF+DKIM and other measures we will be able to rely less and less on IP reputation anyway?

Many email receivers do not support v6. You must have an IPv4 address to send email universally.

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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Thanks! I'm aware of them, but you need two peers to be able to announce your IP space (multi-homing requirement). AWS actually also allows you to bring your own IPs, so we might indeed go Vultr+AWS for now.

I dont think the multihoming requirement works like that. Either Vultr or AWS would fulfill it, as they each certainly would be advertising the block out several redundant ISP paths, thus fulfilling the multihoming justification...

Nope, RIPE really requires two different ASNs / peering partners on their ASN application form.

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You can. Gmail and Migadu both support IPv6: aspmx.l.google.com. 293 IN AAAA 2a00:1450:400c:c07::1b aspmx1.migadu.com. 600 IN AAAA 2001:41d0:2:4a6f:: IP blacklists are possible for IPv6 based email. I have heard many work by blacklisting the /64 or bigger subnet. Sometimes also adjacent subnets. Perhaps with SPF+DKIM and other measures we will be able to rely less and less on IP reputation anyway?

Many email receivers do not support v6. You must have an IPv4 address to send email universally.

We're still transitioning to IPv6, so yes - for now - one needs an IPv4 address to reach the whole Internet.

That doesn't make "You can't run an email server on ipv6" correct.

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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The Internet detects geoblocking as damage and routes around it?

It's always good for a VPN to deny any information about the customer to a server, I would imagine that's not what was referred to as sketchy. Making a user indistinguishable from a typical user from country X is just the VPN doing its job correctly. It seems, however, that at least some VPN providers use their customers' bandwidth without their knowledge to route other customers through it. I'd say that qualifies as…

what's wrong with pirating geoblocked content in this case? if the owner actually believes that piracy == lost sales, this would be a signal that the person might have paid for the content if it were available in their locale.

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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What, besides DNS, is preventing the migration to IPv6? Is it old technology still in use? My house is completely IPv6 and not intentionally so.

For myself, IPv6 address are just to annoying to deal with as a human. It's as much of a mental shift as replacing street addresses with Latitude/Longitude coordinates. So I've avoided IPv6 as much as possible.

Isn’t that what DNS is for? I get that 8.8.8.8 or 1.1.1.1 is easier to remember than an IPv6 address. But once you use 82.54.132.87 addresses - is it really that different from either saving an IPv6 in your ssh config file, or resolving it with a domain name?

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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Hang on I can make money by sharing my internet at night when I don't use it anyway and US persons might need internet from NL? That sounds awesome. edit: The information on how it's secured for packeteers seems a bit limited. (how do you prevent people spraying 192.168.1.1 into all endpoints?). But it's interesting enough to hit up in a seperate docker network. I'm looking forward to seeing if it'll actually use GBs…

I don't know about NL or elsewhere, but I'm pretty sure this can get you in trouble in Spain for several reasons: 1. Check your ISP contract. If it is a residential connection, it probably says you are not allowed to share your connection with people outside your home (and it could be argued that you are doing so by running this). 2. Check your laws. In Spain, if your connection is used to conduct illegal activities…

yeah I would think long and hard about 2). if I understand correctly, this would be the same as running a tor exit node. not technically illegal in most cases, but could be very stressful/expensive to defend against anyway. not worth it to save a few dollars a month.

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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That’s the thing that is so bizarre about VPNs. That’s a big company — why do people trust them?

How much trust do you really need to lend to them if you're just using it because you want to unblock Netflix or get around your school/work network barriers?

Many people think they are buying some sort of security.
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