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Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by IgorPartola »

mchusma wrote: post #220
anonu wrote: post #152

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Right now its 310 YES to 39 NO. From what I've been reading in the (fake?) news, surveys and polls in the USA, I'm actually surprised to see so many yeses.

Some of this can always be explained by the "lizardman constant": https://slatestarcodex.com/2013/04/12/noisy-poll-results-and... Also, ballpark 20% of Americans already had the disease, and the benefit for them (while still there) is lower. Also pregnancy. So multiple reasons why 10% is probably not crazy. For what it was worth, I was also a bit confused by the order, as I think they randomize it or something and al…

Immunity from having COVID lasts about 3 months, it seems. Immunity from the vaccine will last for a year or more and will still work as expected even if you had COVID. “I’ve had COVID” is a bad reason to refuse the vaccine.

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Post by mlyle »

_5yoy wrote: post #127
bognition wrote: post #12

I'm surprised to see such a high percentage of "NO" responses. I'm genuinely curious to understand why

I will take it after a year or two. The US did a great job at politicizing the virus such that I don't really trust that pharma companies actually did their due diligence with regard to testing and safety measures. I accept that doctors and scientists will take it under the guise of them "knowing it's safe", and I accept that lots of people will say "If they're doing it, you should too", but I think this strategy jus…

Hey, we don't really know how safe it is to the extent we understand other drugs. But we've bounded the risk to be much, much less than COVID in almost all populations. (This may not end up being true of adolescents, but there's substantial reasons for adolescents to get vaccinated even if we cannot yet prove that the risk is lower than COVID.

> I think that this vaccine is a choice, and once it's readily available it is still a choice. If you choose not to get it, you are accepting the possibility that you might get COVID and die.

Generally, a whole lot of the reasons why we take vaccines is to provide collective protection. E.g. it's not critical that I be vaccinated for pertussis because of my own risk of whooping cough.

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

natechols wrote: post #263
thelean12 wrote: post #229

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Skip the queue for what? Did they get the vaccine already before it was approved? This is likely complete misinformation. Why is there so much misinformation on HN today?

Or alternately, what the GP is really telling us is that the rich and powerful are easily duped into spending their money on placebos.

> the rich and powerful are easily duped into spending their money on placebos

That was frankly my line of questioning. But at least in the German case, the vials and packaging looked legitimate. And it was a reputable doctor administering it at their home who claimed to have directly procured it, though I’m sure that meant warehouse workers or something in the middle, so who knows.

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Post by ryanSrich »

rob74 wrote: post #123
jkw wrote: post #49

I think there's a difference between: (a) I WILL WAIT because I don't trust it yet, and (b) I WILL WAIT because I want to let the more at-risk people to have access it to first That seems to be lost in the poll

Or (c) I will tell everyone that I'm waiting so that more at-risk people can have access it to first, but secretly I'll be happy others are field-testing it for me...

^

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Post by throwaway201103 »

postalrat wrote: post #231
Omnus wrote: post #129

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"So much faith"? People are just following the science. Are you really arguing that because one bad situation has occurred involving pharmaceutical companies, we should assume every new drug or treatment is bogus or based on evil motives?

Too many people are claiming they are following the science but instead are playing politics.

Also too many people are claiming they are following the science but don't know the first thing about how science works.

Edit: not accusing anyone in particular, just e.g. when some mayor says "we're following the science" I know he's just parroting what he's been told because he has no scientific training whatsoever.

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Post by pimlottc »

For some reason I get a blank screen on HN polls on my normal Chrome configuration, javascript error trace:

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Works in Incognito, so must somehow be related to one of my extensions; but it's not uBlock Origin, which would normally be my first suspicion. Anyone else have this problem?

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Post by mlyle »

throwaway201103 wrote: post #277
asutekku wrote: post #83

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There has been people in several countries who have got Covid twice so having it does not equal immunity.

Those "repositives" are not infectious cases though. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w "There was a low repositive rate in recovered COVID-19 patients in Wuhan. Results of virus culturing and contract tracing found no evidence that repositive cases in recovered COVID-19 patients were infectious, which is consistent with evidence from other sources." Same paper also states that asymptomatic cases are…

Better to say the vast majority of them are later viral shedding or very minor, probably not contagious cases.

There's probably been a few reinfections, and some decent documentation of a couple. If you repeat an experiment millions of times on diverse individuals, you can expect some variation.

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Post by grawprog »

arpyzo wrote: post #205
grawprog wrote: post #164

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Well, dunno if I should explain my reasoning but here goes... For the same reason I never got a rabies vaccine until having to work in close proximity with rabid animals. Up until that point, my chances of dying from rabies were pretty slim to none. Likewise, my chances of severe complications, death, or even experiencing any symptoms at all are slim to none. The at risk people around me will be likely vaccinated, so…

Here's my answer the to "why". We need to achieve herd immunity and you're part of that. Get it for the sake of other people. Someday the tables may be turned and you'll be hoping others make a sacrifice for you.

Why? It's a disease with a 97% survival rate. A huge majority of cases are asymptomatic. As in zero symptoms, zero negative health effects, none.

Why does it even matter either way? 3% of the population is severely at risk from this. 3%.

If those 3% of people are vaccinated, then why does it even matter if anyone else is?

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