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In 2008 I was consuming as much entrepenuriship content I could (while building my first company). For obvious reasons I ended up watching a Tony's presentation. He was sharing a lot of stories about Zappos and in the end he talked about their Culture Book (a book entirely written by Zappos employees, with no editing). Immediately after watch it I sent an email directly for him (at the time a CEO of a company that wo…

WHat a great story.

Would you mind sharing a link (or just a title) of that video?

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It's interesting to me that every thread about Tony Hsieh prior to this one was filled with criticism and skeptics. Why does it take someone's death to start appreciating his body of work? I think many skeptics believe they're speaking truth to power and therefore making the world a better place. There's certainly an element of truth to this, but I think if you take the ten thousand foot view, you'll find that we can be a more powerful agent of change by building good people up rather than tearing bad people down (or even worse, tearing net-good people down).

My condolences go out to Tony's family and friends. As a fellow founder who's faced similar challenges as Tony, I remember tearing up in the airport reading Delivering Happiness. Rest in peace.

Re: Tony Hsieh has died

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post #281

In 2008 I was consuming as much entrepenuriship content I could (while building my first company). For obvious reasons I ended up watching a Tony's presentation. He was sharing a lot of stories about Zappos and in the end he talked about their Culture Book (a book entirely written by Zappos employees, with no editing). Immediately after watch it I sent an email directly for him (at the time a CEO of a company that wo…

WHat a great story. Would you mind sharing a link (or just a title) of that video?

Not GP, but it might have been this one of Tony presenting:

at Startup School 2009: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nlop3TwaMJM (poor AV quality, unfortunately)

but seems most likely to be this one (which includes the offer for the culture book) Web 2.0 Summit 2008: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ2DmNk3YjQ (good AV)

Re: Tony Hsieh has died

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post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Those that dislike patriotism so much should provide the ultimate proof of their beliefs and renounce their citizenship. It’s quite clear you are not referring to single individual here but instead calling out a group and [sarcastically] suggesting they take some action. If including myself in a mentioned group is “making it about myself” and odd, I’m fine with that.

Having positive feelings towards one's country is a pretty normal, pretty emotionally healthy thing. Their absence indicates some internal or external conflict or trauma. Individuals which are experiencing these conflicts should not condemn patriotism in sweeping generalizations. Some countries are quite fine, in spite of a chequered past and being proud of one's country can be a nice feeling.

> Having positive feelings towards one's country is a pretty normal, pretty emotionally healthy thing. Their absence indicates some internal or external conflict or trauma.

That is pub psychology at its most patronising, its most flawed, and its most self-serving.

For those of us not so indoctrinated, expressing feelings for any inanimate or noncorporeal object sounds pathological and fetishistic. Indoctrinating children into the same through repetition of a daily mantra is indistinguishable from religion. If nations were an object capable of returning your affection, the routine exploitation, injustice, violence, mismanagement and desecration of trust would make it a situation to be urgently extracted from.

Those who haven't experienced any of those things first-hand, including from the systems and institutions of nations that make the cosmically ironic claim to be the "good guys", are astonishingly, overwhelmingly, revoltingly privileged - and only a small fraction of humanity.

To sum up: patriotism is an abusive relationship with a memetic virus.

Only a monster would promulgate it.

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He arguably played have played a tangential role in the establishment of Google's business model. Some really interesting history from Ali Partovi, cofounder of Tony's first startup, LinkExchange: https://techcrunch.com/2010/08/29/bubble-blinders-the-untold... It's worth reading the whole thing but the summary is: Scott Banister, then founder of a startup called Submit-It, seems to have been the first person to have…

Thanks for the story. I got to hear a lot about Tony through a colleague of his from the LinkExchange days and was able to meet him briefly once.

Sounded like and seemed to be a very singular human being. Makes me think about how much he shaped the landscape of the internet and the world.

Re: Tony Hsieh has died

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post #258

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ugh. That “renounce your citizenship then” jibe speaks volumes about the revulsion felt by authoritarians for nonconformists. It is bigotry 101, and repeating it labels you personally. Fortunately, I’m perfectly capable of discharging my civic responsibilities without having to believe in some animistic delusion, any more than I need a church to supply a moral compass. My loyalty belongs to people, not places, and to…

In the end nations are the quintessential form of human political organization and they rest upon the ideas of shared history, culture and patriotism. Your attempts at equating patriotism with chauvinism and aggressive nationalism don't provoke revulsion, they just cause confusion as to what could move you to assert such absurdities. Words have clear meanings. You could save everyone some time by being precise instea…

> nations are the quintessential form of human political organization

That is false, hubristic, tautological, and lacking in either foresight or historical perspective. Nations in their current mode of the nation-state have barely existed for a couple of centuries. Like every other construct of mankind, they will be replaced.

> they rest upon the ideas of shared history, culture and patriotism

They rest on borders demarcated by political and ethnic violence, and institutions whose primary functions are to perpetuate their own existence, maintain a ruling class, and quell the populace.

> You could save everyone some time by being precise instead of launching into pointless crusades

You don't have to respond, but I don't take instructions to shut up from someone perpetuating abusive dogma.

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Seems short on details, so I was curious. These articles [1,2,3] may be referring to the fire in question. And this [4] seems to be the property. [1] https://www.theday.com/article/20201118/NWS04/201119437 [2] https://www.fox61.com/article/news/local/new-london-house-fi... [3] https://www.wfsb.com/news/crews-rescue-person-from-burning-n... [4] https://www.compass.com/listing/500-pequot-avenue-new-london...

And the property was only purchased a few months ago (August 2020 close date as per Redfin). In the Tech Crunch article[1] it says he was staying with his brother, so not sure if it was his or his brothers' house. [1] https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/28/tony-hsieh-iconic-las-vega... More on the Stratford fire as well: https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/man-suffers-substa... Altho I doubt it from the search of pr…

That doesn't look like 3:00 AM to me. (?)

Re: Tony Hsieh has died

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post #281

In 2008 I was consuming as much entrepenuriship content I could (while building my first company). For obvious reasons I ended up watching a Tony's presentation. He was sharing a lot of stories about Zappos and in the end he talked about their Culture Book (a book entirely written by Zappos employees, with no editing). Immediately after watch it I sent an email directly for him (at the time a CEO of a company that wo…

WHat a great story. Would you mind sharing a link (or just a title) of that video?

Video: https://youtu.be/JQ2DmNk3YjQ

Messages: https://i.imgur.com/DapelFJ.jpg

Re: Tony Hsieh has died

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Hsieh's Downtown Project building a startup city in Downtown Las Vegas had some very dark aspects, as this 2014 article detailed. https://www.vox.com/2014/10/1/11631452/the-downtown-project-...

What’s the point of sharing this on an article about his passing?
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