‘Tokenized’: Black Workers’ Struggles at Coinbase

Post by SamReidHughes » Sat, Nov 28, 2020, 1:19 AM UTC

mattmanser wrote: post #277

SamReidHughes wrote: post #198

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No, he's defining the meaning as you put it, or compatibly with it. And taking the claims in the article at face value -- not people's feelings, but the specific facts asserted -- it's clear Coinbase hasn't been persecuting black people.

No, this is exactly what he said, laid out in argument form: Premise 1: Tech companies are often accused of racism (any, not coinbase, neither of us mentioned coinbase) Premise 2: Tech companies often contain a much larger % of Asians, a minority Premise 3: (implied) having a disproportionate % of any one minority makes you non-racist Conclusion: Therefore Tech companies are not racist The conclusion does not follow…

Post by cbthrow91 » Sat, Nov 28, 2020, 1:21 AM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #264

cbthrow91 wrote: post #259

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"Ms. Milosevich said the white employee lived in Philadelphia and was allowed to commute to and work from the company’s New York office" Unless I am missing something seems pretty clear the employee switched from WFH in Philadelphia to commuting to NYC to work at that office.

Even if that's the case, the treatment is still obviously disparate: * The PHL employee has been given their choice of office to work from. * The Black employees were required to relocate, not just show up at a particular office on a schedule. Were the Black employees offered the opportunity to work out of the NYC office?

Post by Taek » Sat, Nov 28, 2020, 1:22 AM UTC

Sacho wrote: post #266

throwmylifawy wrote: post #214

Reading through the comments as black person is depressing. Many of the comments question whether the accusations are even true or collusive attack because of an unfounded accusation that black people tend to be SJWs (stereotyping). Others blame affirmative-action, bad schools, etc. (classic misdirection). Some even venture into the possibility that a black person complaining about being passed over for promotion mig…

I apologize in advance because you seem to be emotionally invested in this, but I really do not understand the questions you pose in your comment. What did you actually expect from the discussion? Were there not enough comments against Coinbase? Were there not enough comments outraged about the perceived racist behavior of it? Do you think none of those commenters "imagine the possibility that racism is a problem in…

Post by adjkant » Sat, Nov 28, 2020, 1:22 AM UTC

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #275

adjkant wrote: post #258

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Many companies regularly work within mainstream political action such as LGTBQ+ rights, data privacy, homelessness, local housing or public works, and children's orgs such as Big Brother Big Sister. While these vary in controversiality, relevancy, and apolitical nature, it's not at all uncommon to see companies working in these areas (and others unlisted). Often companies grow into them along with size and profits, s…

If Wired's reporting is accurate ( https://www.wired.com/story/turmoil-black-lives-matter-polit... ), Coinbase did try to ride the line, but a bunch of activists demanded for Armstrong to publicly chant the slogan and eventually went on strike until he did.

Post by tptacek » Sat, Nov 28, 2020, 1:26 AM UTC

cbthrow91 wrote: post #283

tptacek wrote: post #264

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Even if that's the case, the treatment is still obviously disparate: * The PHL employee has been given their choice of office to work from. * The Black employees were required to relocate, not just show up at a particular office on a schedule. Were the Black employees offered the opportunity to work out of the NYC office?

I don't see anything in the article that implies the PHL employee was given a choice of office. For all we know they made the request after CB decided against WFH teams.