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An upcoming story about Coinbase

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Re: An upcoming story about Coinbase

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post #263

> We are committed to maintaining an environment that is safe, supportive and welcoming to employees of all backgrounds. These are inexpensive words said by every company. I feel that most companies, after uttering them, don't actually do anything to follow through.

The article explicitly mentions Coinbase has already followed through.

Yes... By asking people to quit or shut up about its racism, IIRC

Re: An upcoming story about Coinbase

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post #232

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Not sure that's true. An allegation of racial abuse you defend against by saying "I did not do that", hopefully with evidence on your side (other people were at the meeting, maybe). But how do you defend against implicit bias? "No, I'm not"? In the current climate, I'm not sure that saves your public image...

You can always claim not to have acted with bias but if there’s strong evidence that you did then I’m not sure how one is supposed to defend against it, in an informal sense (IANAL). I would just admit it, make amends, and try to move on.

But if there's strong evidence that you acted with bias, then isn't that evidence of explicit bias? I'm not even sure what strong evidence of implicit bias would look like.

Re: An upcoming story about Coinbase

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Yes isn't this a rather common strategy, "Be pro-active, not reactive". When the actual story comes out it is not such a big news any more, because it is not news any more. First impressions often last, so now the first impressions is that the story is fake. So even if their response does amplify the story, it might amplify a good story rather than a bad one. So go even so far as to say "all publicity is good publici…

I get that this strategy can work, but are there really that many people who will be swayed by a pr statement from coinbase? I'm primed to assume their version is filled with lies and spin, and I'm waiting for the piece in the NYT to cut through the corporate pr bullshit.

Well you have an eye for objectivity. Many people don't. And whenever there are two conflicting versions of a story it sows some doubt on both of them. We know this from politics already. So from a pure PR and game-theoretic standpoint I think they made the right (pro-active) move.

Re: An upcoming story about Coinbase

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Yes isn't this a rather common strategy, "Be pro-active, not reactive". When the actual story comes out it is not such a big news any more, because it is not news any more. First impressions often last, so now the first impressions is that the story is fake. So even if their response does amplify the story, it might amplify a good story rather than a bad one. So go even so far as to say "all publicity is good publici…

I get that this strategy can work, but are there really that many people who will be swayed by a pr statement from coinbase? I'm primed to assume their version is filled with lies and spin, and I'm waiting for the piece in the NYT to cut through the corporate pr bullshit.

The thing is, NYT has had its own reputation damaged to the point where such preemptive posts may work.

Re: An upcoming story about Coinbase

#285

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I get that this strategy can work, but are there really that many people who will be swayed by a pr statement from coinbase? I'm primed to assume their version is filled with lies and spin, and I'm waiting for the piece in the NYT to cut through the corporate pr bullshit.

Well you have an eye for objectivity. Many people don't. And whenever there are two conflicting versions of a story it sows some doubt on both of them. We know this from politics already. So from a pure PR and game-theoretic standpoint I think they made the right (pro-active) move.

> Well you have an eye for objectivity.

The NYT is far from objective, so this may actually work.

Re: An upcoming story about Coinbase

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post #234

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And "above politics" is the same as "not involved in politics". Call it a side/position/stance/perspective/angle or whatever else. It's still means they're not involved.

It means they’re involved in preserving the present state of affairs in politics. We can call this being apolitical if we’d like, we just need to be clear about what we mean.

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Re: An upcoming story about Coinbase

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post #234

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And "above politics" is the same as "not involved in politics". Call it a side/position/stance/perspective/angle or whatever else. It's still means they're not involved.

It means they’re involved in preserving the present state of affairs in politics. We can call this being apolitical if we’d like, we just need to be clear about what we mean.

> "means they’re involved in preserving the present state of affairs"

No it doesn't. Perhaps constantly forcing your subjective interpreted and implied meaning on everyone else is the root of the problem.

> "call this being apolitical"

Sure, call it that. It literally means not involved.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/apolitical

Re: An upcoming story about Coinbase

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post #263

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The article explicitly mentions Coinbase has already followed through.

Yes... By asking people to quit or shut up about its racism, IIRC

No, you don't remember correctly. The article contains details of how the handled the investigations.

You mention "Coinbase's racism" - do you have any additional info about the case providing the basis for this certainty?

Re: An upcoming story about Coinbase

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post #288

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Yes... By asking people to quit or shut up about its racism, IIRC

No, you don't remember correctly. The article contains details of how the handled the investigations. You mention "Coinbase's racism" - do you have any additional info about the case providing the basis for this certainty?

Some of the complaints at issue here certainly predate that infamous "please leave your politics at home" post. So while my comment above was made somewhat flippantly, I'm pretty sure it isn't wrong.

It's no surprise that Coinbase touts some other changes. But these are made under duress, facing the imminent PR crisis that being called out in the paper of record. As such, they tell you as much about their true convictions and future actions as a confession made under torture.

As to additional info: I only have the knowledge that there is an article about to come out, and it will be weighty enough to invite an already incriminating attempt to preempt it.

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