Honestly, people should be double-uploading videos to BitChute. We all instinctively hate Google, and distrust them already so their demise is sure.
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Re: YouTube Down
#282Earlier quoted context omitted.
The notion of media that "actually helps" you is itself just as constructed as YouTube. Interrogate where it comes from and what sort of cultural work it's doing. Does "help" mean that it makes you a better worker? Why doesn't YouTube help you, and is that a bad thing? Second, the good old days of "before" we were enterprising enough to invent big data etc. is retroactively constituted, and not apparent until its dem…
So, I think there's one (or two) easily carved exceptions to your "YouTube doesn't actually help you" statement. One, Veritasium. Content like this didn't (perhaps even couldn't) exist before YouTube. The science TV shows and even many books don't go into as much user-friendly depth as this does. You'd have to go to college and pay to get content even remotely close (and still, based on prior experience, not as good)…
Note that much of this content is there in the form of "entertainment". Like Veritasium, extremely well made videos with the "feel smart for some minutes" format that others use too, like smartereveryday. It's just that, entertainment. It's not a public service trying to help you. It's not even you trying to help yourself (I don't mean specifically you).
> for free?
It's not really for free. People making these videos are getting paid.
> go to college
One thing I do appreciate is universities streaming their classes, on Youtube or other means. Of course, it's not that I will become an astrophysicist by just watching videos.
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#283With the amount of attention around this outage, it feels like YouTube has become completely ubiquitous in modern society. I can't imagine a future in which YouTube just ceases to exist. The company has already become tied to the livelihoods of so many people, and has spawned too many significant subcultures. It's a strange feeling to be alive just after all of the significant technology companies were created and st…
> I wonder where the time would have went if we were not enterprising enough to invent big data and portable streams and engagement metrics.
Do remember channel surfing on your dumb, terrestrial, flow TV? Hours spend clicking "next channel" on the remote, cycling the same 5-10 channels, passing by the same program, again and again.
That's where the time would have gone.
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#284On the technology side, I think we're pretty close to the point where small startups can create video hosting platforms. For low traffic, running them through ffmpeg and dropping a tag works pretty well. For higher traffic, I think something like BunnyCDN can be used for a reasonable cost. But the technology isn't the problem. The problem is nobody is going to use your platform. We need to decouple discovery from hos…
A lot of people who have been banned from having the wrong opinions would like to host their videos somewhere... and some already do. A useful app that I can think of is one that supports subscribing to various independent video publishing websites... but aggregates them in one app.
What "wrong opinions" did they have that were so egregious as to get banned?
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#285It's officially confirmed: https://twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1326681978037444608
Gotta love that PornHub reply: https://imgz.org/igMu9iLo
Speaking of memes surrounding the outages, I found the top post of r/videos really funny
"Youtube is asleep, post Vimeo" and a link to the old, old viral numa numa video hosted on Vimeo.
[1] https://imgur.com/a/jDYji8s [2] https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/jsky61/youtube_is_a...
Re: YouTube Down
#286On the technology side, I think we're pretty close to the point where small startups can create video hosting platforms. For low traffic, running them through ffmpeg and dropping a tag works pretty well. For higher traffic, I think something like BunnyCDN can be used for a reasonable cost. But the technology isn't the problem. The problem is nobody is going to use your platform. We need to decouple discovery from hos…
I recently signed up for Viaplay streaming, and found the whole thing to work much worse than Youtube or Netflix.
I think those 2 are actually leading the pack because they consider themselves technology companies.
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#287Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you give an example of a major media company that no longer exists? CBS,NBC,ABC,Fox, etc have existed for ages.
There's tons that no longer exist as independent entities. Of the Big 5 movie studios, only MGM is still independent. 20th Century Fox is under Disney, Paramount is under CBS, and Warner Bros is under AT&T, though they retain some identity still. But RKO is just straight up dead, which I don't think anyone would have called in 1943, its 15th year. 1946 would be its most profitable year. It was gone in 1957.
And Youtube is under Google since 2006.
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#288With the amount of attention around this outage, it feels like YouTube has become completely ubiquitous in modern society. I can't imagine a future in which YouTube just ceases to exist. The company has already become tied to the livelihoods of so many people, and has spawned too many significant subcultures. It's a strange feeling to be alive just after all of the significant technology companies were created and st…
> I wonder where the time would have went if we were not enterprising enough to invent big data and portable streams and engagement metrics. Do remember channel surfing on your dumb, terrestrial, flow TV? Hours spend clicking "next channel" on the remote, cycling the same 5-10 channels, passing by the same program, again and again. That's where the time would have gone.
Sounds like a nightmare.
Thank God for Netflix and YouTube, even though they bring their own set of problems.
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#289Earlier quoted context omitted.
> YouTube has only existed for fifteen years, but it might continue to exist for centuries. > AOL has only existed for fifteen years, but it might continue to exist for centuries. Things change. No one can predict how, or why. But time marches on.
Yes, I guess it's a bit arrogant to suggest that this one form of media is somehow different from all the others that came before it, and we've somehow finally reached the optimum because YouTube is special for some reason. Nobody can really pretend to know this at present. Maybe I was more imagining what the future would be like if it were true, looking back on the present. Although, when AOL was around you could on…
The situation isn't quite the same though.
Youtube is backed by one of the biggest company on earth.
They have the means to either buy their competition, copy them or destroy them.
Re: YouTube Down
#290With the amount of attention around this outage, it feels like YouTube has become completely ubiquitous in modern society. I can't imagine a future in which YouTube just ceases to exist. The company has already become tied to the livelihoods of so many people, and has spawned too many significant subcultures. It's a strange feeling to be alive just after all of the significant technology companies were created and st…
It's an incredible surveillance system in so many ways. Only a few DASH video segments ever get cached locally, so even re-watching an old favorite video involves making requests that give away my identity, geographic location, and current interest.
Right. What youtube does to the audience is disgusting. What it does to creators is much worse.
When a channel does well, the channel owner starts thinking, he can quit his day job and go fulltime as a youtuber. They borrow money and invest huge sums in building a studio. Then, they realize that they need to post not just regularly but often. You can feel that they are getting burned out. Sometimes, there will be a post titled "life update" where they will hint at it but will soon succumb to the fact they have no way out. They have to post a rate that is worse than torture.
Sometimes, Youtube gets upset or somebody takes offense and makes a complaint. The channel suffers a steep fall in traffic. The channel owner complains but gets no response.