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Re: Split Keyboard for Professionals

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Kinesis Freestyle Pro has Cherry mx brown or silent red and shaves a little money compared to the RGB version

Does it have backlighting? (frankly, I didn't need or use all of the "RGB" features, so that was overkill - not a gamer)

No backlighting at all on the Freestyle Pro.

Re: Split Keyboard for Professionals

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Kinesis Freestyle Pro has Cherry mx brown or silent red and shaves a little money compared to the RGB version

> Kinesis Freestyle Pro has Cherry mx brown or silent red and shaves a little money compared to the RGB version I actually have both keyboards and they're pretty similar. A trick here though, the RGB aka "gaming" version of the Freestyle includes wrist rests, which are $15 extra in the "Freestyle Pro," so the cost difference isn't as much as it seems. Neither includes the nifty tenting stands. You probably will want…

The wrist rests do make the prices closer.

I hadn't noticed that the esc key is moved which is kind of interesting. I actually decided that RGB would attract too much attention for me: One of my office mates is a 5-year-old right now, and I didn't want to distract from online kindergarten class too much.

Re: Split Keyboard for Professionals

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I wish it had a longer interconnecting wire. One issue with normal keyboards is that it forces your shoulders to round forwards. I currently use two normal keyboards side by side, which allows me to type with my chest open.

That is interesting. Can you post a pic of how your keyboards are placed?

Two 60% keyboards side-by-side, no gap between them. My forearms stay parallel and my wrists straight. It is also good to confuse people into thinking you have the especialy hability of typing in two keyboards, when it is not much different than touch typing in a single keyboard. Also it's a good excuse to buy another mechanical keyboard.

Re: Split Keyboard for Professionals

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Can somebody compare the UHK to the Ergodox-Ez/Moonlander? I've just started a new job and hope to use the initial downtime to adapt to an ergonomic keyboard. Since I understand it'll be a major adjustment, I've been considering alternative layouts as well. I've never learnt touch typing, so why not start from scratch on a better system? I'm leaning Colmak mod DH for the Moonlander, but I'd appreciate any insights on…

I used an Ergodox ez for over a year (mayne even 2?) before the uhk came out (ordered them around the same time, uhk was very delayed). Today (so for the last 2 years or so) I use the uhk because it has labels on all keys, ergodox only has the letters and numbers but not symbols which is what you need most. Of course that's because of personalisation but I (although I touch type and have done so for 30+ years) need to look when I type things that aren't in muscle memory, like not often used passwords.

The switches are about the same for both. The keycaps on the uhk are ok but not great; you can feel the letters and now after 2+ years the prints are fading a bit. It's easy to order new keycaps for the ergodox, although I guess if I wanted to there's probably replacement sets for the uhk too? The uhk wrist pads (wood) are now getting quite stained from hand grease, I don't quite know how to clean them without damaging the wood finish. I would have preferred high quality plastic wrist supports.

The uhk modules still aren't available, what - 3 or 4 years after they were promised? It seems the first one is almost done now... Their project management is horrible, and what's worse, they don't seem to learn either. There is no newsletter that doesn't have another reason for a delay. I mean, I get it, hatdware is hard - but then don't make predictions, especially when you were wrong the first 10 times. The thumb clusters are great in the ergodox, so I hope the uhk modules will be too.

The mouse layer on the uhk ik worthless. I mean I guess there are people out there who use it, but don't get your hopes up until you know for sure it works for you.

The ergodox just looks nicer, especially when you get some custom sleeved cables that go with your custom keycaps. It looks less - frolicky, shall I say? Eg the segment display on the uhk is both tacky and useless.

But despite all of that I still use the uhk because of the key labeling. So make of that as you will.

Re: Split Keyboard for Professionals

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> Kinesis Freestyle Pro has Cherry mx brown or silent red and shaves a little money compared to the RGB version I actually have both keyboards and they're pretty similar. A trick here though, the RGB aka "gaming" version of the Freestyle includes wrist rests, which are $15 extra in the "Freestyle Pro," so the cost difference isn't as much as it seems. Neither includes the nifty tenting stands. You probably will want…

The wrist rests do make the prices closer. I hadn't noticed that the esc key is moved which is kind of interesting. I actually decided that RGB would attract too much attention for me: One of my office mates is a 5-year-old right now, and I didn't want to distract from online kindergarten class too much.

> I actually decided that RGB would attract too much attention for me: One of my office mates is a 5-year-old right now, and I didn't want to distract from online kindergarten class too much.

I also avoided the RGB for this reason (at work, where I have the pro) - but when I got my own RGB (for home), I learned that the LEDs are just as customizable as the keys, and are only as distracting as you wish them to be :)

Re: Split Keyboard for Professionals

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Myself, I have been using a Kinesis RGB Edge with the "lift-kit" for about a month. Have never been a perfect, trained touch-typist - so there has been a learning curve, but it is worth it. My wrists feel so much better, and I am almost back to full speed. (Previously, I would just use laptop KB's). The only complaints... Not from me, but when I am on web meetings, I have to be on mute, because everyone finds the KB…

I've been using mine for about a year now. I love it. I'm not really an orthodox touch-typist so there were a few keystrokes that took some time for me to get the hang of. I'm pulling 100 WPM though so I must be doing something sort of right :) The customization of both the RGB and the keys themselves as well as the ergonomics have been well worth it. I use a USB switch and use the keyboard for both Windows gaming an…

> I rebound the left space bar to the Command Key

My left space bar is backspace. I sometimes get confused when I switch to a different keyboard, though.

Re: Split Keyboard for Professionals

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I see it like this: if there is anything you use more than a an hour a day, get a thing that feels good, is functional and makes you happy. Just like different guitars play differently, just like different shoes feel differently, different keyboards feel differently too. If you are fine with a non-mechanical one, no need to defend yourself. Some people like clicky mechanical keyboards, some like linear ones, some wan…

People talk a big game about how durable these pricy mechanical keyboard are, how they can be repaired and last forever, etc. I don't think it works out that way. Looking through these comments you can see people with the Ergodox EZ asking whether they should "upgrade" to something slightly newer. Once you start chasing keyboarding perfection, the journey is endless. Minutae loom large; you're never quite satisfied.…

I'm overall very happy with my kinesis advantage, but there is something (subtle?) to be aware of: you tend to use your thumbs quite a bit to hit control/alt/return/space (especially with emacs), and after some time my thumb joints started hurting. Thumbonitis? :-)

Re: Split Keyboard for Professionals

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I'm maintaining a gallery of split mechanical keyboards, including the Ultimate Hacking Keyboard. Hopefully it's helpful for a quick overview of the options that exist. Many of these keyboards are DIY (available as a kit, or sometimes just a PCB and case plan), but some are available assembled. https://aposymbiont.github.io/split-keyboards/ (There's also https://jhelvy.shinyapps.io/splitkbcompare/ for direct comparis…

Looks like the filtering is a bit strange. If I filter mass produced only then ergodox ez is misisng, if I filter source only then ergodox ez is missing, but if I filter both then it appears? I know it's both open source and mass produced but filters should display the keyboard if at least one of them matches...

Moonlander is listed. Newest board from the same company

Re: Split Keyboard for Professionals

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The drawback is that you'll spend months learning to type again, and you won't be nearly as fast as you were. That's what happened for me, at least.

Took me like 3 or 4 days to get up to my normal speed of a bit over 100wpm. This was also going from 60% to my first split/ortho. Took me another couple of days to get used to chording and these days I use a 36 key split board. So your mileage may vary, but it's definitely not going to take you months typically.

Ease of adaption may depend on users age. No point to argue about this imho

Re: Split Keyboard for Professionals

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These keyboards look interesting but how does "space" work on it and how long did it take you to learn the non-qwerty parts of the layout (like space, hyphen, brackets, and tilde)?

For me, space is under the natural resting place of my right thumb. Enter on the left. And then the closer on each is backspace on right, delete on left. As well as layer toggling. It didn't take me too long to get used to the locations of most keys, but tweaked it over time. My weird one is I have `~ where caps lock would traditionally be. I use it a lot for code blocks in slack and things like that. And it really s…

Two of my "bottom four" are Ctrl+PageUp/Ctrl+PgDown. That's previous/next tab in web browsers, my terminal, IDE etc, and really useful when keyboarding and when mousing.
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